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Moving from Low Carb to Higher levels

yes I could I guess, Check carb contain in Buckwheat 100g carb amount is 72g, more than self raising flour which got 69%.
@AndBreathe Looks like you have reversed your diabetes too.
 
Positive said:
yes I could I guess, Check carb contain in Buckwheat 100g carb amount is 72g, more than self raising flour which got 69%.
@AndBreathe Looks like you have reversed your diabetes too.
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I would be very cautious on the reversed bit to be honest, but I seem to have wrangled it into some sort of shape for now. I don't want to get complacent.

Vis-a-vis the buckwheat pancakes, we were having breakfast with friends, at their house, so I was joining in, and using the opportunity to tests something different, without having half a ton of ingredients left over, if it all went horribly wrong. Sometimes there's method in my madness.
 
Well, well. Last night was a bit of a surprise. Neither of us wanted to cook last night, so decided to go out. The local pizza house does a 2 for 1 night on Tuesdays, and my OH fancied it, so that was to be it last night. We bumped into a friend on our way, and swept him up with us, so we had a 2 for 1 for 3, if you get my drift.

So, we had an "All American", and a "Diavallo", and three plates. The chaps had a bottle of vino Rosso, and I had a club soda. I ate the equivalent of half a pizza.

Preprandial: 4.1
Postprandial (2hrs): 4.7. (Erm,...... We were absorbed in debate at the 1hr mark, so missed it.)
Postprandial (3hrs): 3.8.

I tested the 3 hours, as I was aghast at the 2hr figure. Historically, pizza (and pasta) gave me some of my highest, and sustained readings.

I'll repeat the exercise at some point, but for now, that moves pizza from the banned to the once in a while list.
 
So on hols in wales today and went to a fish and chip restaurant and ate chicken and a huge portion of chips. Didn't test before but tested at 30 mins afterwards and then one hour. Got 6.9 and then 5.7. Totally shocked at how great these numbers are.

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Andrew Colvin said:
So on hols in wales today and went to a fish and chip restaurant and ate chicken and a huge portion of chips. Didn't test before but tested at 30 mins afterwards and then one hour. Got 6.9 and then 5.7. Totally shocked at how great these numbers are.

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What was it between them though?
 
AndBreathe said:
Well, well. Last night was a bit of a surprise. Neither of us wanted to cook last night, so decided to go out. The local pizza house does a 2 for 1 night on Tuesdays, and my OH fancied it, so that was to be it last night. We bumped into a friend on our way, and swept him up with us, so we had a 2 for 1 for 3, if you get my drift.

So, we had an "All American", and a "Diavallo", and three plates. The chaps had a bottle of vino Rosso, and I had a club soda. I ate the equivalent of half a pizza.

Preprandial: 4.1
Postprandial (2hrs): 4.7. (Erm,...... We were absorbed in debate at the 1hr mark, so missed it.)
Postprandial (3hrs): 3.8.

I tested the 3 hours, as I was aghast at the 2hr figure. Historically, pizza (and pasta) gave me some of my highest, and sustained readings.

I'll repeat the exercise at some point, but for now, that moves pizza from the banned to the once in a while list.
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3.8?
That is low.
 
Great readings Andrew! You seem to have cracked it. I have been happy these last few days as many readings in the 4s! Hope you are having a good holiday - but not too many portions of chips! Think of all the hours you have spent on that treadmill!
 
Dear too difficult
I have a code free, funded by myself. I also have an accucheck mobile on prescription. I alternate between the two (I think the prescription will stop if coming of metformin proves successful). I bought my own because I don't want to cost the NHS too much money. When I change over I take a reading from each meter, for a day and the readings are slightly higher on the accucheck, but not much.

In any event, it's a trend we look for when self checking. My average prior to my last HbA1c was 0.7 less than the result. I keep that in mind as an estimate, although I know that's not very scientific of me.

So it's a trend we're checking for. Of course there are rogue readings - same finger, same drop, almost one full unit difference. I take the average if that happens.

We are all different - number of beta cells; fat; height; physical environment; emotional environment; diet; exercise etc

The Codefree is a bargain.


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Dear too difficult
I have a code free, funded by myself. I also have an accucheck mobile on prescription. I alternate between the two (I think the prescription will stop if coming of metformin proves successful). I bought my own because I don't want to cost the NHS too much money. When I change over I take a reading from each meter, for a day and the readings are slightly higher on the accucheck, but not much.

In any event, it's a trend we look for when self checking. My average prior to my last HbA1c was 0.7 less than the result. I keep that in mind as an estimate, although I know that's not very scientific of me.

So it's a trend we're checking for. Of course there are rogue readings - same finger, same drop, almost one full unit difference. I take the average if that happens.

We are all different - number of beta cells; fat; height; physical environment; emotional environment; diet; exercise etc

The Codefree is a bargain.


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I don't have to worry about hypos so it is fine for me also. Specially now that I have retired. It reads low but it is consistent.
 
Hi @Andrew Colvin ! Caught this thread from a link you shared at @zazoopits thread :)

For background: my patterns are similar to @AndBreathe, I also don't have any hypo symptoms for readings at 3.4 and if I follow my usual diet get readings at 4 or 5 for baseline pre meals and post meals.I have been successful with including fruit in my diet like bananas or (berries I can eat 3-4 servings a day). I've been experimenting small amounts of rice and pototoes (had potato and leek soup) the other day and there wasn't much of an increase in blood sugar. Maybe on the first hour, but after two it goes back down to high 4s to 5 range. I still get a spike if I eat out but have no problems going back to my per usual diet the next day or the next meal.

By the way, initially I did a diet of 800-950 cals per day (didn't realize I was doing something similar to Newcastle diet, that time I didn't know).

Would like to stretch my luck in including more carbs, just like what you did. I have a question regarding exercise and carb loading: when do you exercise? After eating or before eating?What is your best response blood sugar wise if you do it before or after? What type of exercise do you mostly do?

Thank you!:)
 
Adelle0607 said:
Hi @Andrew Colvin ! Caught this thread from a link you shared at @zazoopits thread :)

For background: my patterns are similar to @AndBreathe, I also don't have any hypo symptoms for readings at 3.4 and if I follow my usual diet get readings at 4 or 5 for baseline pre meals and post meals.I have been successful with including fruit in my diet like bananas or (berries I can eat 3-4 servings a day). I've been experimenting small amounts of rice and pototoes (had potato and leek soup) the other day and there wasn't much of an increase in blood sugar. Maybe on the first hour, but after two it goes back down to high 4s to 5 range. I still get a spike if I eat out but have no problems going back to my per usual diet the next day or the next meal.

By the way, initially I did a diet of 800-950 cals per day (didn't realize I was doing something similar to Newcastle diet, that time I didn't know).

Would like to stretch my luck in including more carbs, just like what you did. I have a question regarding exercise and carb loading: when do you exercise? After eating or before eating?What is your best response blood sugar wise if you do it before or after? What type of exercise do you mostly do?

Thank you!:)
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Adelle0607 said:
Hi @Andrew Colvin ! Caught this thread from a link you shared at @zazoopits thread :)

For background: my patterns are similar to @AndBreathe, I also don't have any hypo symptoms for readings at 3.4 and if I follow my usual diet get readings at 4 or 5 for baseline pre meals and post meals.I have been successful with including fruit in my diet like bananas or (berries I can eat 3-4 servings a day). I've been experimenting small amounts of rice and pototoes (had potato and leek soup) the other day and there wasn't much of an increase in blood sugar. Maybe on the first hour, but after two it goes back down to high 4s to 5 range. I still get a spike if I eat out but have no problems going back to my per usual diet the next day or the next meal.

By the way, initially I did a diet of 800-950 cals per day (didn't realize I was doing something similar to Newcastle diet, that time I didn't know).

Would like to stretch my luck in including more carbs, just like what you did. I have a question regarding exercise and carb loading: when do you exercise? After eating or before eating?What is your best response blood sugar wise if you do it before or after? What type of exercise do you mostly do?

Thank you!:)
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Hi @Adelle0607 My exercise during the weeks follows a similar pattern, I get up and do 30 minutes either on the treadmill or the exercise bike. I don't run I walk very fast - up to 8km/h up an incline of 12%. Then I have breakfast. At lunch time I eat my lunch (I posted a picture of what I have in a different thread) and then will walk to tescos with others for the exercise (that is a 20 min walk) in the evening I get home and eat my main meal (pie and chips last night :) ) and then will generally do at least 30 more minutes on the treadmill, bike or rowing machine (not so often this later one as it has to be set up and everything moved for it).

However, for the last few weeks I have managed very little due to a tendon issue in my shin and now my back op. Next week hopefully back to it. Funny I think I miss it. I see the spikes and normally I would squash them but now I'm not and they go down within 15 mins. So all seems to be working (crossed fingers for it to stay that way)

As for the response to the glucose. I find that doing exercise before reduces the initial spike. However, targetting the spike and timing it can completely eliminate it but I have, on occasions, got it wrong and not made it any better. The one thing with exercising after you eat is that it is amazing how rapidly you can take a spike from 8 to 5 (literally 5 mins now). of course when you stop it goes back up if you are still digesting so you need to continue for the 20 to 30 mins to keep it flat.
 
Andrew Colvin said:
Hi @Adelle0607 My exercise during the weeks follows a similar pattern, I get up and do 30 minutes either on the treadmill or the exercise bike. I don't run I walk very fast - up to 8km/h up an incline of 12%. Then I have breakfast. At lunch time I eat my lunch (I posted a picture of what I have in a different thread) and then will walk to tescos with others for the exercise (that is a 20 min walk) in the evening I get home and eat my main meal (pie and chips last night :) ) and then will generally do at least 30 more minutes on the treadmill, bike or rowing machine (not so often this later one as it has to be set up and everything moved for it).

However, for the last few weeks I have managed very little due to a tendon issue in my shin and now my back op. Next week hopefully back to it. Funny I think I miss it. I see the spikes and normally I would squash them but now I'm not and they go down within 15 mins. So all seems to be working (crossed fingers for it to stay that way)

As for the response to the glucose. I find that doing exercise before reduces the initial spike. However, targetting the spike and timing it can completely eliminate it but I have, on occasions, got it wrong and not made it any better. The one thing with exercising after you eat is that it is amazing how rapidly you can take a spike from 8 to 5 (literally 5 mins now). of course when you stop it goes back up if you are still digesting so you need to continue for the 20 to 30 mins to keep it flat.
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Thank you for the exercise tips @Andrew Colvin! Was curious about the timing of exercise, if it made an impact---if it was better to do it before meals or after meals. Im sorry to hear about your shin, hopefully you'll be back to your old activities....Great to hear that you're able to manage the spikes within 15 min, yes hopefully it stays that way--Especially with the pie and chips, you're very lucky! :)
 
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Time to make a new post with an update

I am now eating 250+ grams of carbs per day - unable to lose weight with this level even with stopping nuts and lots of exercise but I am not gaining.

BG levels showing a really interesting pattern now. I no longer have a spike at one hour and then drop rapidly! What happens now is that I have a modest rise to 7, if I do not overdo it with very fast acting carbs (or 8.5 with them) but then it flat tops and then comes down. I can only put this down to my pancreas/liver/brain now controlling my digestive system and stopping too much glucose from being released. There must be another hormone that has come into play that was also deficient as well. Will have to do some research.

Did 2 days of measuring every 2 hours (whilst awake) 6AM-10PM and highest I saw was 7 throughout the whole period. I ate all manner of "bad stuff" to try and break my BG levels but failed.

Anyway, interesting as this, I think it is time to reduce the carbs again so I can lose that last stone. So how do I give up these carbs and the peanuts! :banghead:
 
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