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My first day tracking carbs and cals - what is your opinion of my 'menu'?

Ellie-70

Ellie-70

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Location
Clare, Ireland.
Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Hello all,
So on Thursday I counted the grams of carb that I ate that day and I ate a lot more carbs that I had intended to. The point is I felt hungry and unsatisfied even though it looks like a lot of food for one day when I see it written down. What do you seasoned low carbers think? I need to lose about 45lbs to get my blood glucose down, I only got a meter last week and the 'Carbs and Cals' book so carb counting is new to me. I am diagonosed Type 2 for 3 months and am on 1000mg Metformin per day.

So here is my 'menu'!

Breakfast (Morning BG was 5.7, unusually low for me)
125g 10% Fat Greek Yoghurt 6 carbs
50g mixed berries 3
10g chopped hazelnuts 1
BG @ I hour 8.6
BG @ 2 hour 7.8

Lunch
Large leg of roast chicken 0
BG @ I hour 5.7
BG @ 2 hour 5.6

Dinner
Beef Meatloaf (homemade) 6
Brussel Sprouts 4
Cauliflower 3
25g 85% Dark Chocolate bar 4.5
BG @ I hour 6.7
BG @ 2 hour 6.4

Night Snack
40g Cashel Blue Cheese 0
125g Apple 15
2 tbsps Peanut Butter(no sugar) 4

FF milk used in 5 Teas (150ml) 7.5
BG @ bedtime 7.6

TOTAL CARB INTAKE 71 grams

This lot added up to 1,436 calories ( as I said I have a lot of weight to lose).
I wasn't hungry at all until after dinner time, hence the 19 carb night 'snack'! The carbs in the homemade meatloaf come from the onion, red pepper, mushrooms, garlic, grated carrot, tomato puree and Worcestershire Sauce that I added to the beef mince.

Please advise (I know that apple has to go and that the carbs from the milk in my teas are too high). I was hoping to stay at around 50 grams of carbohydrate but I was hungry on 71 grams!

Ellie
 
Hi Ellie, what about switching your milk for cream, so having that in your tea and maybe some fruit (Berries) with cream, if you really want apple what about half an apple chopped in your berries?

Abbie
 
Mrsass said:
Hi Ellie, what about switching your milk for cream, so having that in your tea and maybe some fruit (Berries) with cream, if you really want apple what about half an apple chopped in your berries?

Abbie
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Hello Abbie and thanks for replying,
The cream in tea is a good idea. I just checked the 'Carbs and Cals' book for the carb content of single cream and it said 0g for I tbsp of cream. I would used I tbsp of cream in one cup of tea so five cups of tea would be 5tbsps (75ml) so would that still be Og of carbohydrate? I don't have any cream in the house at the moment so I can't check the label for the carb content. Unfortunately I am on a low income and cream is a lot dearer than milk but for my blood glucose purposes I will give up something else in order to buy the cream if it means I use less carbohydrates. I love tea, it is literally my 'hug in a mug' so it is not something I am willing to give up and I hate black tea. What do you put in your tea, if anything, Abbie? I am just going to omit the apples altogether and stick to the berries as the apple I ate was one of those little 'funsize' apples and half of it would not be worth 7.5grams of carbohydrate. I may try satsumas, they are lower in carbs.
Thanks for your input Abbie,
Ellie
 
You will find 1 tblsp of cream in coffee is way too much. I use about a tsp. Try logging stuff on fitness pal its quite good.
 
I'm so glad I haven't had to resort to counting weighing recording it all.
How about replacing the yoghurt with full fat.
 
I don't count 71gr of carb there. I count:

Breakfast 10 gr
Lunch 0gr
Dinner 17.5gr
Night snack 19gr
Milk 7.5gr

I total that as 54gr. Did I miss something?
 
Ellie-70 said:
Hello Abbie and thanks for replying,
The cream in tea is a good idea. I just checked the 'Carbs and Cals' book for the carb content of single cream and it said 0g for I tbsp of cream. I would used I tbsp of cream in one cup of tea so five cups of tea would be 5tbsps (75ml) so would that still be Og of carbohydrate? I don't have any cream in the house at the moment so I can't check the label for the carb content. Unfortunately I am on a low income and cream is a lot dearer than milk but for my blood glucose purposes I will give up something else in order to buy the cream if it means I use less carbohydrates. I love tea, it is literally my 'hug in a mug' so it is not something I am willing to give up and I hate black tea. What do you put in your tea, if anything, Abbie? I am just going to omit the apples altogether and stick to the berries as the apple I ate was one of those little 'funsize' apples and half of it would not be worth 7.5grams of carbohydrate. I may try satsumas, they are lower in carbs.
Thanks for your input Abbie,
Ellie
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I use cream in my tea & coffee, I don't even buy milk anymore anything I would have used milk in I use cream :)
 
JACKTHELAD said:
I'm so glad I haven't had to resort to counting weighing recording it all.
How about replacing the yoghurt with full fat.
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Hi Jack,
The 10% Greek Yoghurt is the highest fat one I have come across and it is the one recommended by David Cavan in 'reverse your diabetes', a book I have faith in. If you know of a brand of yoghurt with a higher fat content then please let me know. The breakfast spiked me quite a bit so I think I may need to reduce to about 75g of yoghurt and up the nuts a little. Thanks Jack.
 
AndBreathe said:
I don't count 71gr of carb there. I count:

Breakfast 10 gr
Lunch 0gr
Dinner 17.5gr
Night snack 19gr
Milk 7.5gr

I total that as 54gr. Did I miss something?
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Oh AndBreathe, you are an angel! I feel like such a dummy and maths was one of my better subjects at school . What happened is that I inadvertently added a couple of my blood glucose readings in with the grams of carbs. I feel much better now because if I switch to cream in my tea and omit the apple I should be able to keep things under 50g of carbs, maybe less. Thanks very much, I feel much more hopeful about low carbing now.
 
Ellie-70 said:
Oh AndBreathe, you are an angel! I feel like such a dummy and maths was one of my better subjects at school . What happened is that I inadvertently added a couple of my blood glucose readings in with the grams of carbs. I feel much better now because if I switch to cream in my tea and omit the apple I should be able to keep things under 50g of carbs, maybe less. Thanks very much, I feel much more hopeful about low carbing now.
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I thought that's what had probably happened. You added some, but not them all.

You'll be fine. Many T2s give up most fruit, aside from berries, initially at least. Fruit is the thing I miss most, still.
 
AndBreathe said:
I thought that's what had probably happened. You added some, but not them all.

You'll be fine. Many T2s give up most fruit, aside from berries, initially at least. Fruit is the thing I miss most, still.
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Thank goodness for berries! I buy the Tesco Summer Fruits frozen ones at the moment as the fresh ones are too expensive. However I have a number of berry trees in my garden and I am really impatient for them to come into season this year - blueberries, red currants, black currants, raspberries and strawberries. I am even looking forward to the gooseberries and I don't like gooseberries! There is a quiet country lane where I like to go for long walks and the brambles were heaving with blackberries last Autumn so I have my greedy eyes on them for this Autumn too lol !
 
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Do you like rhubarb? I love rhubarb, at breakfast time.
 
Ellie-70 said:
Hi Jack,
The 10% Greek Yoghurt is the highest fat one I have come across and it is the one recommended by David Cavan in 'reverse your diabetes', a book I have faith in. If you know of a brand of yoghurt with a higher fat content then please let me know. The breakfast spiked me quite a bit so I think I may need to reduce to about 75g of yoghurt and up the nuts a little. Thanks Jack.
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What a dork I am at times!worrid.gif
Just checked and the full fat one from Lidl is .... 10% fat ..... fingerdrumming.gif
 
AndBreathe said:
Do you like rhubarb? I love rhubarb, at breakfast time.
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Not a big rhubarb fan. I grew up in the countryside and we had a big rhubarb patch and my Mom fed us endless rhubarb pies and stewed rhubard ,and we had pots of rhubarb and ginger jam all winter! I will stick with the berries!
 
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