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My week in hospital

Lamont D

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Type of diabetes
Reactive hypoglycemia
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I do not have diabetes
I have already posted the success of my treatment whilst in hospital last week.
I will now share the observations and experience on the ward.
I was pre-booked as an appointment into the 'diabetic ward' in my local hospital because of my condition. I arrived at 9.30 am. I was asked to wait in the room marked diabetic diagnosis. The seating was good and because I had to have regular bloods taken my stay was imperative. I was determined throughout my stay that I would see this through because my consultant was very enthusiastic that getting the right medication would improve my life and health.
The day dragged on with the promise of a bed. It was not until after visiting, despite the ward sisters efforts, that I was told my bed would be ready. Ten pm arrived and the nurse showed me into a bay with three other gentlemen. I began to relax, however the other patients were asleep. I got undressed and there was a smell of stagnant water. I climbed into bed and started reading reading my kindle (thank whoever invented this machine, I had already worn out my ipad). The smell persisted, so I waited for the nurse to return, I told her about the smell and after another two nurses started using there smell senses deemed that the smell was in the pillow and mattress. Replacements were ordered whilst in sat in the chair, the replacement mattress also had a noxious smell, so one of the nurses went to the next door ward and brought one back. It was after 11pm when I finally got in bed.
I found out the reason why the nurse was able to get a mattress. The hospital had closed the ward the week before the bank holiday. That's the reason why I couldn't get a bed.
The closed ward was a geriatric ward and most of them ended up on my ward. There was only six diabetic patients in a forty bed ward.
Over the first night I was in I hardly got any sleep, because of the constant disruption and the needs of my fellow inmates. One patient when awake was in constant demand of care because of Parkinson's, however, he was still able to escape twice, with the hospital security bringing him back, he was moved to a more secure room on my third day because the staff couldn't handle him and the other patients at the same time.There was a diabetic gentleman in my bay, I couldn't believe he was offered continually sugar in his tea, helpings of high GI foods for every meal and a bottle of orange juice sat on his table with sweets and chocolate on his cabinet. Because of his Alzheimer's he often said yes! When he was awake, he continually groaned about not feeling well. Surprise!
The pressure and demand of the front line nursing staff was ridiculous. It was a madhouse. The nurse patient ratio was totally unworkable, many times my fellow inmates were left with no care for periods whilst the staff were dealing with other patients on the ward. The sights and smells were indescribable.
Because I was low maintenance, my ability to move, walk and do other things relieved my boredom, but having to stay in this environment, certainly opened my eyes to the condition and the threat to our NHS. I cannot blame the ward staff, they work really hard in difficult circumstances, Where the NHS is going wrong is that the money spent is spent in the wrong places, you will hear in different conversations with staff where things are decided, but the overall wrong, that a manager has more staff than a ward of patients! How can that be right?
Back to my stay, finally the consultant was happy and my diagnosis deemed that I started taking new medication and that I start the next morning before my breakfast, you can see what's coming, woke up and time for brekkie, no tablets, I was advised to have a little and the staff would chase the pharmacist. Time for my mid morning snack, no tablets. By the way I should have been discharged by now! Again I was told to restrict my intake and that the pharmacist would here shortly. Another hour and I was getting frustrated, I had had enough, I wanted the comfort of my home and family. Another hour, my consultant arrived and asked me, (me?) why I was still there. He stormed out of my bay and tore a strip off the following entourage of juniors and pharmacist. The pharmacist tried to stand up for herself, claiming she was unaware of my departure, before my consultant was able to reply, I told her that regardless of wether I was going or not I required the tablets to eat, appropriately my lunch was served, (you can't write this stuff). However I was able to leave the hospital within the hour, I still had to wait for a porter (hospital policy), even though I am very capable to do most things including carrying bags and walking.
My Health has improved because of my stay in hospital. For example my blood pressure was the lowest I can ever remember. I am really grateful to my consultant and ward nurses. But I wouldn't recommend the hotel conditions of my stay. The stay reminded me of the early eighties, when patient care came last, just as it has in the Staffordshire hospitals allegedly recently. The Tories and previous governments have a lot to answer for in the demise of our healthcare.
If I have to go in again, I can't afford private care, I would ask for them to put me in a temporary coma, till I was discharged.
It's a good job I had family, friends and the staff and a couple of inmates Alf and George to make my stay more bearable.
 
Jeez, I hope - I really do hope, that you copy and paste this into a letter to the CEO of the Hospital trust, the Ops Manager, and copy it to Healthwatch England, your MP and the local Healthwatch Board. If you get no reply from the CEO, send it to your local media as well... only by reporting these matters can the situation change.

As you say, the front line staff are invariably under immense pressure, but the back-office and Senior Leadership? We've spent too many generations rewarding failure and the most ineffectual people into positions that demand energy, enthusiasm, charisma and determination to enforce and support the right sort of change. :mad:
 
Sad to say this is almost normal these days in NHS hospitals. Complaints will not be read and ignored as they arrive in shoals. I shudder to think what I might experience when older and/or alone. I decided early on to pay for private medicine and have been lucky enough to afford a reasonable level of cover. I have always given health a high priority over most other things. I was in hospital 2 weeks ago for an op and had superb treatment but it was private. I feel sorry for those who simply cannot afford private insurance and have to suffer their local NHS hospital. They are great for trauma care as seen on TV programs , but the day to day stuff is rarely shown
 
Sad to say this is almost normal these days in NHS hospitals. Complaints will not be read and ignored as they arrive in shoals. I shudder to think what I might experience when older and/or alone.

We still live in an open society, where social media is forcing the established media, etc., to sit up and take notice. Complaints DO get read and dealt with IF they are circulated in the right fashion (believe me, I've done loads).

If you worry about what it'll be like when you're old, and yet you don't do anything to change things for the better while you're not, who will look after you then?

I've never understood the philosphy: "You can't change the system." The fact is, the 'system' changes all the time: people leave, new ones join, etc., etc.

If that weren't the case, then all of us IDDM's would be injecting with 1ml glass syringes, using 30gauge steel needles that you're told to re-sarpen using "a bit of wet n' dry". Do your old age a favour and raise a stink - it is worth the effort, especially in pre-election years ;)
 
I have already posted the success of my treatment whilst in hospital last week.
I will now share the observations and experience on the ward.
I was pre-booked as an appointment into the 'diabetic ward' in my local hospital because of my condition. I arrived at 9.30 am. I was asked to wait in the room marked diabetic diagnosis. The seating was good and because I had to have regular bloods taken my stay was imperative. I was determined throughout my stay that I would see this through because my consultant was very enthusiastic that getting the right medication would improve my life and health.
The day dragged on with the promise of a bed. It was not until after visiting, despite the ward sisters efforts, that I was told my bed would be ready. Ten pm arrived and the nurse showed me into a bay with three other gentlemen. I began to relax, however the other patients were asleep. I got undressed and there was a smell of stagnant water. I climbed into bed and started reading reading my kindle (thank whoever invented this machine, I had already worn out my ipad). The smell persisted, so I waited for the nurse to return, I told her about the smell and after another two nurses started using there smell senses deemed that the smell was in the pillow and mattress. Replacements were ordered whilst in sat in the chair, the replacement mattress also had a noxious smell, so one of the nurses went to the next door ward and brought one back. It was after 11pm when I finally got in bed.
I found out the reason why the nurse was able to get a mattress. The hospital had closed the ward the week before the bank holiday. That's the reason why I couldn't get a bed.
The closed ward was a geriatric ward and most of them ended up on my ward. There was only six diabetic patients in a forty bed ward.
Over the first night I was in I hardly got any sleep, because of the constant disruption and the needs of my fellow inmates. One patient when awake was in constant demand of care because of Parkinson's, however, he was still able to escape twice, with the hospital security bringing him back, he was moved to a more secure room on my third day because the staff couldn't handle him and the other patients at the same time.There was a diabetic gentleman in my bay, I couldn't believe he was offered continually sugar in his tea, helpings of high GI foods for every meal and a bottle of orange juice sat on his table with sweets and chocolate on his cabinet. Because of his Alzheimer's he often said yes! When he was awake, he continually groaned about not feeling well. Surprise!
The pressure and demand of the front line nursing staff was ridiculous. It was a madhouse. The nurse patient ratio was totally unworkable, many times my fellow inmates were left with no care for periods whilst the staff were dealing with other patients on the ward. The sights and smells were indescribable.
Because I was low maintenance, my ability to move, walk and do other things relieved my boredom, but having to stay in this environment, certainly opened my eyes to the condition and the threat to our NHS. I cannot blame the ward staff, they work really hard in difficult circumstances, Where the NHS is going wrong is that the money spent is spent in the wrong places, you will hear in different conversations with staff where things are decided, but the overall wrong, that a manager has more staff than a ward of patients! How can that be right?
Back to my stay, finally the consultant was happy and my diagnosis deemed that I started taking new medication and that I start the next morning before my breakfast, you can see what's coming, woke up and time for brekkie, no tablets, I was advised to have a little and the staff would chase the pharmacist. Time for my mid morning snack, no tablets. By the way I should have been discharged by now! Again I was told to restrict my intake and that the pharmacist would here shortly. Another hour and I was getting frustrated, I had had enough, I wanted the comfort of my home and family. Another hour, my consultant arrived and asked me, (me?) why I was still there. He stormed out of my bay and tore a strip off the following entourage of juniors and pharmacist. The pharmacist tried to stand up for herself, claiming she was unaware of my departure, before my consultant was able to reply, I told her that regardless of wether I was going or not I required the tablets to eat, appropriately my lunch was served, (you can't write this stuff). However I was able to leave the hospital within the hour, I still had to wait for a porter (hospital policy), even though I am very capable to do most things including carrying bags and walking.
My Health has improved because of my stay in hospital. For example my blood pressure was the lowest I can ever remember. I am really grateful to my consultant and ward nurses. But I wouldn't recommend the hotel conditions of my stay. The stay reminded me of the early eighties, when patient care came last, just as it has in the Staffordshire hospitals allegedly recently. The Tories and previous governments have a lot to answer for in the demise of our healthcare.
If I have to go in again, I can't afford private care, I would ask for them to put me in a temporary coma, till I was discharged.
It's a good job I had family, friends and the staff and a couple of inmates Alf and George to make my stay more bearable.
Whatever happened to our good old NHS
 
I have reported my observations, and my wife knows were the patient survey goes to and they are read and filed. It is up to the trust to act upon, where the money goes. Usually in the wrong place! Most of the recent activity is to cover insurance claims and to cover the managers backs. What has happened in Mid Staffs is just the surface. The NHS is being dismantled in front of our eyes. If the Tories get in again, the outlook for the service is very grim, unless you can pay. Once they have sorted the needy they will sort the next up, so don't think because you can afford it now, just think what the Tories and the kip will do to your health insurance.
 
I have been in a similar situation. My husband likened the ward to the Bangkok Hilton (the prison). I was taken to hospital with ketoacidosis (long story) was taken into ICU at first on 3rd day was moved to a respiratory ward as there was no beds on the diabetic ward. Unfortunately this ward seemed to have a few spare beds so some other patients that should have been in specialists wards were also dumped there, and that's the only description I can use, as their needs couldn't be met by the nurses on this ward no-one seemed to be able to nurse them, there was an elderly deaf lady who would have starved if the lady next to me hadn't seen to her, I cleaned up blood and other fluids from the lady opposite me as she was left in a right old state, she kept having nose bleeds, was also diabetic and had fallen broke her hip, out of 3 showers for 40 patients 2 were out of order. I am on a special diet, that they couldn't cater for, I needed my husband to help me shower, but was told off as i he had to come into the bathroom where woman might come in, yes really the only working shower room also had the only toilet! but we were expected to allow others to use the loo if we were in shower. I take replacement enzymes which I had to wait for until dispensing time but that as 2 hours after breakfast so couldn't eat then. Was told off for husband bringing food in out with visiting hours, they respect meal times pity my meal had to wait til visiting, everyone visiting watching me eat, felt like I was in a zoo. Was told I needed to inject insulin by the night shift nurse, who showed me how to do it but couldn't tell me how much and when (new diagnosis) as she was a respiratory nurse, only found out on day of discharge when the hospital dietician came in to apologise for food **** up, yes a dietician, will waiting in the discharge unit the community DN tracked me down had another 5 minute instruction session, she was very nice had only been told by the dietician my dilemma . Seemingly the NHS brag you will be seen by a diabetes consultant within 18 weeks do diagnosis, I am 10 months in and it's never happened. Seen DN once, dietician twice both shocked that I have yet to be seen.
 
I sympathise and empathise. I hope you're sorted soon. I didn't see a consultant till I was referred by my GP. For years I was seen by my DN or GP, I am T2 , I don't know about T3c.
There is a total breakdown in the frontline service on the wards, the increase in elderly diabetics is condemning patients to a really poor stay.
The overriding problem is money and the cuts are cutting too deep.
If you are in the majority of sufferers, (not paying) then you are liable to the worst care.
God help us if we have a bad flu epidemic or vomiting sickness in the winter.
Bloody Tories, they are dismantling the NHS right in front of our faces.
Really felt sorry for the nursing staff.

If you don't mind me asking, what is T3c?
 
I have been in a similar situation. My husband likened the ward to the Bangkok Hilton (the prison). I was taken to hospital with ketoacidosis (long story) was taken into ICU at first on 3rd day was moved to a respiratory ward as there was no beds on the diabetic ward. Unfortunately this ward seemed to have a few spare beds so some other patients that should have been in specialists wards were also dumped there, and that's the only description I can use, as their needs couldn't be met by the nurses on this ward no-one seemed to be able to nurse them, there was an elderly deaf lady who would have starved if the lady next to me hadn't seen to her, I cleaned up blood and other fluids from the lady opposite me as she was left in a right old state, she kept having nose bleeds, was also diabetic and had fallen broke her hip, out of 3 showers for 40 patients 2 were out of order. I am on a special diet, that they couldn't cater for, I needed my husband to help me shower, but was told off as i he had to come into the bathroom where woman might come in, yes really the only working shower room also had the only toilet! but we were expected to allow others to use the loo if we were in shower. I take replacement enzymes which I had to wait for until dispensing time but that as 2 hours after breakfast so couldn't eat then. Was told off for husband bringing food in out with visiting hours, they respect meal times pity my meal had to wait til visiting, everyone visiting watching me eat, felt like I was in a zoo. Was told I needed to inject insulin by the night shift nurse, who showed me how to do it but couldn't tell me how much and when (new diagnosis) as she was a respiratory nurse, only found out on day of discharge when the hospital dietician came in to apologise for food **** up, yes a dietician, will waiting in the discharge unit the community DN tracked me down had another 5 minute instruction session, she was very nice had only been told by the dietician my dilemma . Seemingly the NHS brag you will be seen by a diabetes consultant within 18 weeks do diagnosis, I am 10 months in and it's never happened. Seen DN once, dietician twice both shocked that I have yet to be seen.
I would complain. To everyone. In writing. And I would involve the press so that others didn't have to go through the same thing. I would have taken photos too. Absolutely disgraceful! Yet the executive pay goes up and the nurses pay goes down.....
 
I have reported my observations, and my wife knows were the patient survey goes to and they are read and filed. It is up to the trust to act upon, where the money goes. Usually in the wrong place! Most of the recent activity is to cover insurance claims and to cover the managers backs. What has happened in Mid Staffs is just the surface. The NHS is being dismantled in front of our eyes. If the Tories get in again, the outlook for the service is very grim, unless you can pay. Once they have sorted the needy they will sort the next up, so don't think because you can afford it now, just think what the Tories and the kip will do to your health insurance.
Frightening and true. Keep hoping that Ukip will take Tory votes so they cancel each other out. Plenty of people in public sector jobs vote for Dave the rave and I could never understand why. Especially in teaching where age = expense so many older staff seem to be losing their jobs. Either through competency proceedings or redundancy!
 
It is a concern that when you look at the NHS, there are more managers than nurses, a manager has more staff than a ward. For every nurse there are 4 members of staff that you have to hire. It is really ridiculous.
 
It is a concern that when you look at the NHS, there are more managers than nurses, a manager has more staff than a ward. For every nurse there are 4 members of staff that you have to hire. It is really ridiculous.
Why?
 
Always more chiefs than Indians. Money keeps going to the wrong places!
 
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