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Discussion in 'Greetings and Introductions' started by Jenbear86, Oct 20, 2015.

  1. Jenbear86

    Jenbear86 Type 2 · Newbie

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    Hi everyone. I've just been diagnosed with type two. The gps are still working out if I need to be treated with meds or if I can just control by diet. My head is all over the place with it as my diet has to change so much and to be quite honest I don't know where to start. I've seen a diaticien and they have given me tons of sheets and advice and websites but it's still all a blur to me. They said to cut carbs and sugar but I'm struggling to know what I can eat apart from salad.

    My head is mashed as I didn't expect it to be diabetes and knowing its a long term thing now is really difficult.
     
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  2. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @Jenbear86

    Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will be useful to you to get started. This will give you more idea of which foods are better for you. Ask more questions and members will come and help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
     
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    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    Prem51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Hi @Jenbear86 and welcome to the forum. It is a shock when you are first diagnosed, and does take a bit of time to come to terms with it. There is a lot of good advice and support on this forum.
    Do you know what your readings were? If not you should ask your GP as you need to know where you are starting from. You should also ask to be referred to a diabetes management course, though there might be a waiting list.
     
  5. Daibell

    Daibell LADA · Master

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    Hi. If you haven't yet got a meter do get hold of one so that you know what foods affect you and by how much. It's great the dieticians have recommended cutting the carbs (which includes sugar). Have enough proteins, fats, veg and non-tropical fruit to keep you feeling full. So, the good news is that eggs and bacon for breakfast is fine and so on. If the dietician's sheets talk about low-fat everything many of us would ignore that as fats are not the problem we have always been told. Do read all the labels on packaging.
     
  6. sanguine

    sanguine Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Jenbear86 welcome :)

    Don't panic, and take what your dietician says with a large pinch of salt. Most of us get the wrong advice from them, especially the bit about eating carbs with every meal. Completely nuts for a diabetic.

    @zand has kindly linked to one of my pieces, there's some more interesting stuff in the links below.

    Do you know what your diagnosis HbA1c number was?

    Have a good read around and ask any questions.
     
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  7. Jenbear86

    Jenbear86 Type 2 · Newbie

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    Thanks everyone. It's so good to know there's a lot of support around. Went for my blood test today and going back on the 2nd of November to get the results including my HbA1c number. This morning my b.s was 9.8 and that was fasting. I have a meter but they won't prescribe the cassette for it as I'm not on meds yet. That I don't have an issue with (more than used to what the nhs will and won't prescribe in different trusts)

    Thanks for all the links etc. It's so confusing to what I can and can't eat so been sticking to meat and veg and fruit but even then my levels don't go down past 11. I'm hoping the dr will give me a better diagnosis on the 2nd. Don't really want meds but if I have to then so be it.
     
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  8. DeejayR

    DeejayR Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    The results ought to be back within three working days so you could try the surgery on Monday afternoon and get a printout. Then tell us what the figures are so you know what's going on. My surgery doesn't charge for printouts but I believe some do.
    NB Watch out for the fruit.
     
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  9. Jenbear86

    Jenbear86 Type 2 · Newbie

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    Yeah I may do that. I'm working funny hours next week so not sure if I'll have time to get there before work. But have the appointment on the 2nd. I'm just being super careful at the moment. Yeah with fruit I'm limiting how much I have as I know it can spike b.s sometimes even tho it's natural sugar.
     
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    stallard MODY · Member

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    This is not easy but it will get easier takes a lot of time and learning about MED's food and life changes. There is lots of support on this website. Give yourself time get support and look after your self. Any questions just ask hun take care
     
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    DeejayR Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I just stopped ALL fruit at first and then tried different ones. Like many on here I find -berries (rasp, straw, blue etc) are ok in small amounts with cream. Occasionally I have some cooking apple with pork. Whatever, I think you'll find "tropical" fruit, especially bananas, are bad for your BS. All trial and error.
     
  12. SueB743

    SueB743 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi and welcome. Try not to worry, and I know that is hard. There is loads of useful information on the site and you will soon find what is a good option, something for moderation, and what is best to avoid for you. There are loads of great things you can have depending on your diet preferences. Good luck
     
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