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FrankC

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I've just been diagnosed Type 2.
I'm 68 so I guess that goes with the territory been on stains for about 15 years pills for high blood pressure for about 10 years I personally think it's all related. Statins push the BP up

Yes I'm over weight. I don't exercise much just general walking

Just read some of the diet stuff on here, one recommendation was eat more cheese I was told none. I was also told cut out chips replace with rice yet some say cut out rice. Starve myself to death ?? I've always had a good appetite

As far as I was aware I eat fairly healthily my downfall oven chips and sweats the latter in moderation. no more than 21 units alcohol per week, fresh fish twice a week, red meat once per week, chicken most of the time, don't smoke where have I gone wrong

So I've cut out sugar in my tea immediately gone on to Canderal dropped from 30gm per day to 3gm, that's go to be a good start

No one said anything about a meter, should I get one ? especially a freebie
Next blood test 1 month. Not particularily worried it's just one of those things

Appreciate any comments regarding a meter to keep a check on things, good or bad ??

Cheers

Frank
 
Hi Frank and welcome to the forum :)

Yes, I recommend you get yourself a meter and test. The meter which uses the cheapest strips is the SD Codefree. You will see from this information that we give to new members how important testing and diet are. By testing before and 2 hours after eating you can judge what you can eat and what you can't - it is different for everybody. There is plenty you can eat - none of us are starving :lol: You just have to eat less carbohydrates. This information should be very useful to you I think. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
FrankC said:
I've just been diagnosed Type 2.

Just read some of the diet stuff on here, one recommendation was eat more cheese I was told none. I was also told cut out chips replace with rice yet some say cut out rice. Starve myself to death ?? I've always had a good appetite

As far as I was aware I eat fairly healthily my downfall oven chips and sweats the latter in moderation. no more than 21 units alcohol per week, fresh fish twice a week, red meat once per week, chicken most of the time, don't smoke where have I gone wrong

So I've cut out sugar in my tea immediately gone on to Canderal dropped from 30gm per day to 3gm, that's go to be a good start

No one said anything about a meter, should I get one ? especially a freebie
Next blood test 1 month. Not particularily worried it's just one of those things

Appreciate any comments regarding a meter to keep a check on things, good or bad ??

Cheers Frank

Yes, get a meter. If a food puts you over the sugar level you want to achieve then eat something else next time.

The advice about eating chips instead of cheese is strange. Eat what you like if your blood sugar levels are not made too high as a result.
 
Hi. The health profession have become obsessed with fats and salt being bad to the exclusion of carbs. Much of this is not evidence-based. Diabetics suffer glucose intolerance hence this has to be controlled to the extent determined by what your meter shows. You need calories, and fats can provide this instead of carbs. So, with a meter you can reduce your carbs to ensure your blood sugar is OK. If going below, say, 150gm/day and your bloods are still too high then medication may be needed as well. Have some fats; unsaturated where you can. Go for low-GI carbs where you can and rice is quite high-GI so look for the lower-GI ones. Hope that helps a bit. BTW, don't think 'sugar' think 'total carbs'.
 
Thanks for the replies

I always though I ate healthily. Looks like a meter is the answer to keep a check and adjust diet accordingly

The nurse put me on tablets to begin with 1 a day for a week the 2 per day for a week up to 4 per day then I'll be seeing her again.

Sadly it looks like I will have to do without my Mars bars :(

I find the content on food a bit confusing ie % of Daily Amount some days it looks like I eat less than 50% of recommended. Perhaps my calculations are out hence the meter idea seems the right way to go

Enjoy the weekend ( cold and frosty here )

Frank
 
Hi. The recommended daily intake of calories for many people is too much hence the obesity we see around. Co-incidentally the food industry doesn't seem too worried about this :)
 
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