New Flash Glucose Monitoring from Abbott - Bloodless Testing

[noblehead]

Maybe my GP will stump up if I up my strip usage a bit

A cunning plan me thinks

 

[robert72]

 

[PaulinaB]

The DCUK article posted earlier in the thread says the sensor is stuck to the skin, I do wonder myself about the accuracy compared to bg testing.

My bad, didn't see the link. Sorry!

When I think about it, it basically sounds like a cgm without the... Cgm? So no alerts and stuff.

I love the idea, but I think the only way this will work is if they can make it deadly accurate and/or very cheap.

 

[ElyDave]

And no more blood over your paperwork or what ever else you are doing, in so many ways it will be much better than the finger prick test.

and no more driving my wife potty with the errant test strips finding their way into the washing machine

 

[ElyDave]

My bad, didn't see the link. Sorry!

When I think about it, it basically sounds like a cgm without the... Cgm? So no alerts and stuff.

I love the idea, but I think the only way this will work is if they can make it deadly accurate and/or very cheap.

from the video I saw, that was the whole point, pre calibration that's good for XX days so no need for additional tests, but you can find your level any time, seems like a win-win outcome to me.

 

[robert72]

The only downside with interstitial glucose measurement is that it's about 20 minutes behind blood glucose, OK for meandering levels but not too reliable if you are rising fast or plummeting. You'd certainly still want some strips for hypos.

 

[CarbsRok]

The only downside with interstitial glucose measurement is that it's about 20 minutes behind blood glucose, OK for meandering levels but not too reliable if you are rising fast or plummeting. You'd certainly still want some strips for hypos.

From reading the very little info available it looks as if you treat it just as you would a CGM. IE readings are 20 mns behind but you must always use a finger poke for hypo's and even though I haven't seen it any where would also suspect you would need a finger poke for any insulin dosing as in meal times.

 

[AlexMBrennan]

When you scan the sensor you'd also get 8hs worth of data, which means you'd be able to see any trends - if the BG has been stable for the last few hours then I don't think you'd really have to do a finger prick test on the off-chance that it randomly plummeted in the last 20min so I'd imagine that you could at least cut down quite a bit on the number of test strips you'd need in addition to the device.

 

[noblehead]

My bad, didn't see the link. Sorry!

When I think about it, it basically sounds like a cgm without the... Cgm? So no alerts and stuff.

I love the idea, but I think the only way this will work is if they can make it deadly accurate and/or very cheap.

Never used a CGM Paulina but was once offered one, the waiting list at the time was 6 months by which time I'd sorted my problem out. I love the idea too but it will depend on the affordability, just a pity the sensors didn't last longer, say for a month before changing.

 

[noblehead]

From reading the very little info available it looks as if you treat it just as you would a CGM. IE readings are 20 mns behind but you must always use a finger poke for hypo's and even though I haven't seen it any where would also suspect you would need a finger poke for any insulin dosing as in meal times.

So it could be quite costly for gp's to prescribe both, that's a shame and will mean very few might be offered this new device (if NICE give the go-ahead).

 

[Omnipod]

it has a very sticky plaster under the disc so as soon as its inserted, it sticks. Results from the trials have been very good and acurate with readings. Its been under test for a long time. I reckon end of september they will be onsale online. I heard that the meter will sell for somewhere in the region of £200 - £250 and the discs will be about £40 - £50 each. I heard the discs will cost the same as a months supply of 200 test strips - It will be the meter and the software that will cost the most and then training the GPs and Dr's to use the AGP. I'd suggest that everyone send the link to your diabetes team and get them to register. My diabetes specialist never even heard of it until I told him.
We all need to push for this to become widely available. The higher the demand, the more the price will reduce.
Abbott are employing over 600 new people to train them up for the launch and manufacture of the product. I heard that as soon as they have the staff, they will launch. trials are done.

 

[PaulinaB]

Hmmm... So it WILL be a cgm without the cgm dexcom sensor costs £60 per one so the price for that will be the same yes, the meter is 10x cheaper but if you're using animas vibe pump with dex, then you don't even need the receiver...

And since its using fatty tissue you'll still need the strips can't see how that will convince any gp to give it out to people

 

[Robert 2170]

There is a lot of negative replies o it won't do this it won't do that YOU DONT NO YOU HAVE NOT TRIED IT the only one ho has is omnipod ....
He has used it saw it and knows what it can and can't do ....

 

[PaulinaB]

On the plus side, I like the fact that Abbott is investing in research and I'm sure they will be lobbying a lot - this can only have a positive effect!

 

[Omnipod]

not saying the GP's will give it out. It may be cheaper than strips in the long run and provide more tests than strips. We will probably have to buy the meter and hopefully get 2 discs per month on the NHS. Loads of diabetics do not test as much because finger pricking hurts and the process is a pain in the ****. If this device makes it easier to test, it will be easier to keep control which will then have an impact on the NHS long term ie less complications etc
I really do believe that this device is going to change diabetes care permanently and this is just going to get better and more advanced over time. It will certainly change my life being able to scan the disc anywhere, anytime and then get a reading. I will certainly be in more control and it will be easier to ensure that my blood sugar never goes too high.

 

[Robert 2170]

not saying the GP's will give it out. It may be cheaper than strips in the long run and provide more tests than strips. We will probably have to buy the meter and hopefully get 2 discs per month on the NHS. Loads of diabetics do not test as much because finger pricking hurts and the process is a pain in the ****. If this device makes it easier to test, it will be easier to keep control which will then have an impact on the NHS long term ie less complications etc
I really do believe that this device is going to change diabetes care permanently and this is just going to get better and more advanced over time. It will certainly change my life being able to scan the disc anywhere, anytime and then get a reading. I will certainly be in more control and it will be easier to ensure that my blood sugar never goes too high.

You just keep theses wee bits of info coming out

 

[Hooked]

it has a very sticky plaster under the disc so as soon as its inserted, it sticks. Results from the trials have been very good and acurate with readings. Its been under test for a long time. I reckon end of september they will be onsale online. I heard that the meter will sell for somewhere in the region of £200 - £250 and the discs will be about £40 - £50 each. I heard the discs will cost the same as a months supply of 200 test strips - It will be the meter and the software that will cost the most and then training the GPs and Dr's to use the AGP. I'd suggest that everyone send the link to your diabetes team and get them to register. My diabetes specialist never even heard of it until I told him.
We all need to push for this to become widely available. The higher the demand, the more the price will reduce.
Abbott are employing over 600 new people to train them up for the launch and manufacture of the product. I heard that as soon as they have the staff, they will launch. trials are done.

If the discs are £40-£50 each that will def be beyond my budget. Couldn't afford £80-£100 a month for these and I don't see the GP giving them out easily on prescription if we'd still require blood test strips as well to get current levels.

 

[Robert 2170]

Wee need to chill out wee are all getting a we bit dramatic we don't now how much they are and we might get them on the NHS
Give them a go if no use then back to good old fingers getting a bruising again all lumpy and black spots aww the good times lol

 

[noblehead]

it has a very sticky plaster under the disc so as soon as its inserted, it sticks. Results from the trials have been very good and acurate with readings. Its been under test for a long time. I reckon end of september they will be onsale online. I heard that the meter will sell for somewhere in the region of £200 - £250 and the discs will be about £40 - £50 each. I heard the discs will cost the same as a months supply of 200 test strips - It will be the meter and the software that will cost the most and then training the GPs and Dr's to use the AGP. I'd suggest that everyone send the link to your diabetes team and get them to register. My diabetes specialist never even heard of it until I told him.
We all need to push for this to become widely available. The higher the demand, the more the price will reduce.
Abbott are employing over 600 new people to train them up for the launch and manufacture of the product. I heard that as soon as they have the staff, they will launch. trials are done.

Hopefully with Abbott leading the way others will follow, once this type of device becomes wide-spread the costs of the equipment will eventually drop as they compete against each other, you only have to look at the SD Codefree strips to see what is possible.

 

[Hooked]

Wee need to chill out wee are all getting a we bit dramatic we don't now how much they are and we might get them on the NHS
Give them a go if no use then back to good old fingers getting a bruising again all lumpy and black spots aww the good times lol

Who is getting dramatic? I must have missed those posts?