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- Diet drinks - the artificial sweeteners taste vile.
Having to forswear foods I have loved all my life.
Trying to find low carb meals when eating out.
Ps. At a BMI of 22 on LCHF it looks as if I am only going to get rid of my NAFLD by having a few weeks on Prof Collins diet?
Hi Brun, apparently fructose goes straight to liver and is stored as fat. I reckon zero fructose for a few weeks may help defat the liver?Crash dieting causes weight loss. Rapid weight loss. If some of that weight goes from the liver, then it may take the person below the personal fat threshold. Same with slower weight loss. I would LOVE to see a study that proves/disproves that certain diets target certain body parts or organs. That would be fascinating. But I haven't seen it yet.
Of course, short term rapid weight lost DOES reduce glycogen stores in the liver, which is part glucose, part water, so getting rid of those will shrink the liver rapidly. But that isn't reducing the fat... And a few meals of carbs will fill the stores right back up again. Sometimes glycogen stores can be sizeable.
If you have any studies on this subject, please link to them? Am very curious to know where this idea has come from. Especially since it seems to pressure people into rapid/starvation diets.
The bariatric surgery thing is different. There are various theories as to why bariatric surgery can appear to reverse T2, including weight loss, changes in the gut biome and changes in the way the small intestine works. I believe @Indy51 has been following the research on this? (sorry to invite you into this thread Indy, it is quite, quite mad, completely off topic, and full of wild theories)
Plus, of course, if someone's diet prior to bariatric surgery takes them below their personal fat threshold, then they will reverse. Again, speed of diet irrelevant, except that it prepares people for surgery, and prepares them mentally and physically for the period after surgery when they are on liquids and adjusting to small quantities of food and drink.
I don't think anyone has drawn any definitive conclusions yet as to how all these things fit together and (as Darkhorse mentioned earlier), without the evidence, these things are just theories.
Hi Brun, apparently fructose goes straight to liver and is stored as fat. I reckon zero fructose for a few weeks may help defat the liver?
This just popped up via the Newbot. Fascinating. And quite possily relevant to this discussion.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/thr...-cells-determines-response-to-insulin.106807/
I like the sound of that - but would reducing the fructose cause fat in the liver to reduce too - or would it just prevent new fat being laid down?
I am guessing that any reduction in fat deposits is going to require eating less overall, not just eating less fructose while maintaining the same overall food intake...
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