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New to diabetes

mand56

Well-Known Member
Messages
51
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, all I'm 35 and found out I had diabetes in October. I was starting on metaformin just to find out a few weeks ago it hadn't made any difference (which explains why the symptoms were so bad). My GP added another tab but so far the symptoms haven't subsided. I also test my blood sugars when I feel really bad and they can be as high as 31.8 as it was today. Should I give the tabs more time to work or should I go back to my GP. Advice would be appreciated.
 
Hi @mand56 and welcome to the forum.

Those levels are very high and you really need to ring your G.P. ( even out of hours) or NHS111 when they are that high.

It could be that your diet needs changing, tell us what you eat on a typical day and we will try and help.

@daisy1 will be along soon with some basic advice for you. Read around the forums and ask as many questions as you need to.
 
I've cut our anything sweet and fizzy. I don't eat much carbs and I have been using recipes from a carb free cook book.
I considered going back to GP but I'm not sure if I've given the new tab long enough to work. It's been 2 weeks do you think they would have started to working by now.
 
The GP isn't sure if I have type one or two l.
 
@mand56

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will help you, and in particular the advice on carbs. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thank you for this information daisy1. I appreciate it.
 
Hi catherinecherub, I received a notification saying you tagged me in something. But I can't see it or don't know how to see it. I don't know my way around yet.
 
The GP isn't sure if I have type one or two l.
regardless the type, it's too high and you should seek immediate health care...don't delay and I would leave now.

they can do blood tests to see what it is
common symptom of T1 is weight loss without trying
common symptom of t2 is putting on weight.
 
Thank you I will contact and see my GP first thing. I appreciate the advice jack412.
 
Have to agree with @jack412

Sugars that high for a prolonged period aren't that good

Take care
 
I know it's trial and error with the meds. But it's worrying how high the levels are. My GP said I didn't need to test my levels because the blood test I have shows what the levels have been in the past 3 months. It was the diabetic nurse that insisted I had one. Because she wasn't happy with my levels and how bad the symptoms are.
 
Mostly I has one 12.2, 19.8, 20.1 & 20.4 the rest have been in the 30's and that's 2 weeks since the GP added the new tab. That's why I wasn't sure what to do because I didn't know how long to give this new tab before seeing the GP again.
 
Hi. As you are young you may be a Late onset T1 (LADA) if you are slim'ish. Metformin only ever has a small effect on blood sugar and very little if you are a T1. The nurse was right to give you a meter. Anything in the high 20s and 30s is far too high but I've been there myself. You must return to the GP or DN and ask for the two tests for LADA (GAD and C-peptide) and the GP needs to add one of the following to your meds Gliclazide and Sitagliptin or similar. These prod the pancreas to produce more insulin. Personally I wouldn't bother phoning 111 if your sugars go into the 30s but go to A&E or a GP or walk-in clinic. They may well give you insulin for a while. Meanwhile low-carb and have plenty of water
 
Thank you Daibell. I've just put another message up I didn't realise you had left this message. I took the advice and saw my GP he told me not to worry and give the new tab a chance to work I've only been taking it for 2 weeks. I tested my levels a short while ago and it read HI. I'm confused as what to do.
 
When I was diagnosed as a type 1 at the age of 29 my bg was around 27. I was sent straight to hospital where I spent 3 days on a sliding scale of insulin. With you bg so high you might be producing ketones which are dangerous. I am not an expert in anyway but if I were you I would go,to the hospital immediately.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.x
 
Hi All. I saw a GP today she isn't my normal doc but I was still concerned about bg. I had a feeling she would say I needed to see my normal GP and she did. She looked at my diary to see for herself and then arranged for me to have the blood test so my doc can see the results tomorrow. She said he will either increase Gliclazide or put me on insulin. Then sent me on my way. I have no energy and constantly tired and sometimes can't help but fall asleep. I'm so thirsty I'm drinking so much but it's still not enough. I feel weak and as slow as I get up I still feel faint. I don't know if it's conected but I get a tingling feeling in my hands. I just want to feel better than I do right now.
 
Hi @mand56 so are you back to see your doc today & get blood results? Really hope they do something for you, you should not still feel like this, don't leave until you feel happy with what they have said/suggested. It's your health! Best of luck x
 
Hi Mrsass, thank you for your support it's much appreciated. I will let you know how I get on later. Thanks again.
 
Hi again saw my GP he has increased Gliclazide from one in the morning. He said I can go up to 4 and there are other tabs he can add and I'm a long way of insulin. I told him how bad I'm feeling and he just repeated himself. So yeah.
 
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