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Bigdaddy1981

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Hi I was diagnosed very recently with type 2. I got a warning from a doctor my levels were close to type 2 status about 2 years ago. I have been a vegetarian for the last year and a half. In hopes that would have helped it didn't I was naive about the whole situation and assumed not eating meat would help but I ate alot more bread and pasta. Now I'm here I really do not like taking any meds and I'm hoping to reverse this diagnosis with proper diet and exercise. Can I do this ? Is it possible with out meds? Please help! any info would be appreciated. Thanks you all!
 
Hi I was diagnosed very recently with type 2. I got a warning from a doctor my levels were close to type 2 status about 2 years ago. I have been a vegetarian for the last year and a half. In hopes that would have helped it didn't I was naive about the whole situation and assumed not eating meat would help but I ate alot more bread and pasta. Now I'm here I really do not like taking any meds and I'm hoping to reverse this diagnosis with proper diet and exercise. Can I do this ? Is it possible with out meds? Please help! any info would be appreciated. Thanks you all!
Hi, and welcome.

I'll tag @daisy1 for her excellent infosheet, but I gather you already found out that pasta and such wasn't doing you any favours. It would have been nice if you'd had some proper guidance when you were still pre-diabetic, but then, barely any of us got that. (I know I didn't!). Quite a few people can manage without meds, some can't. All depends on how much insulin resistance and -output there is, stuff like that, and it's different for all of us. But in the past year and a half you've proven you can follow a diet; this'd just be a different one. Although it is possible to follow a vegetarian diet and eat low carb, it is easier, in my opinion, to include meat. Check dietdoctor.com, they have loads of meal ideas with and without meat, should you still want to avoid it.
Practically all carbs turn to glucose once ingested, so ditching potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, fruit (save for berries, tomatoes and avocado's), cereal and the like would make a huge difference in your bloodsugars. Get yourself a meter and see what certain foods do. If you test before a meal and two hours after first bite, you shouldn't go up more than 2.0 mmol/l. (Keeping a food diary would help gain some insight too) If it is more, that meal was carbier than you could process out again. So what can you eat? Meat, fish, above-ground veggies/leafy greens, cheese, eggs, full fat greek yoghurt, nuts, extra dark chocolate...

I started eating low carb, but got a lot wrong at with the start... Took me 3 months to get off the meds, and if I'd h ad proper help it could've been faster than that. 2 Years and 25 droped kilo's later my HbA1c is 34, my cholesterol is fine, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease improving... Panic attacks are a whole lot better, rheumatism and foodintolerances too. So it does help a whole lot with a bunch of things!

Anyway... Decide whether it's okay for you to come back to meat. If it really was an attempt to get bloodsugars under control and nothing more than that, welcome back to a life with bacon. If it's a concience thing though, you've still got options, just do visit dietdoctor.com, because there's loads of info there.

You'll be okay.
Jo
 
Morning!

Not the end of the world so don’t panic. Yes, the symptoms are completely reversible but you’ll likely remain somewhat carbohydrate intolerant for life. What many people miss here though, in my view, is that you were always somewhat carbohydrate intolerant, which is why you’re now diabetic. Forget everything you thought you once knew about nutrition, and start reading up on here. Ignore all mainstream diabetes treatment advice, it will only make things steadily worse.

It took me six months to get off my medications, and I was very very diabetic with foot and eye problems. Now living a full and happy life free from symptoms, complications, and medications.
 
@Bigdaddy1981
Hello Bigdaddy and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hi I was diagnosed very recently with type 2. I got a warning from a doctor my levels were close to type 2 status about 2 years ago. I have been a vegetarian for the last year and a half. In hopes that would have helped it didn't I was naive about the whole situation and assumed not eating meat would help but I ate alot more bread and pasta. Now I'm here I really do not like taking any meds and I'm hoping to reverse this diagnosis with proper diet and exercise. Can I do this ? Is it possible with out meds? Please help! any info would be appreciated. Thanks you all!



Hi, I was diagnosed with Type 2, 3weeks ago. When I visited the doctor on another matter he remarked my blood sugar had been on the rise since 2003, but diabetes had never been mentioned at all. I am following an highish fat/low carb diet, and with the help of the good people here I am losing weight. I keep away from the doctor (unless it is medical)because they really seem to have no clue about this diet. Good luck in the future.
 
Morning!

Forget everything you thought you once knew about nutrition, and start reading up on here. Ignore all mainstream diabetes treatment advice, it will only make things steadily worse.

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This should be shocking but it isn’t.

Following gov’t or funded organizations will produce a greater reliance upon Pharmaceuticals as your health is made worse. $$$$$$$$$

Thus far, I’ve found advice to the contrary of official diabetes agencies dating back 370 years.

I’m searching history.

Of sugar? Even Solomon warned of the health impact of excess. That’s back quite a few years.
 
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