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New Type 2

bigjim19

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Location
edinburgh
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
a lot of food im supposed to eat yuk
hi my name is jim and have been diagnosed in the last few weeks as type 2 diabetic, im trying to learn about it as my GP at the minute just seems to want blood tests done by the nurse on me were i want to know how to combat it .

my one problem at the minute is im not a great lover of tea or coffee my thing has always been soft drinks !!! i know what your saying that was the cause of the diabetes so anyway ive found fanta orange zero a help can anybody confirm this is ok to take
the nurse has told me the other things i turned to were not good ie ( fresh orange to much natural sugar) i await my next visit for her to tell me no not this either phew what next because there is not a lot of things i like lol

btw i still take normal coke /pepsi on my night off with my vodka ( within limits of course ) till i can find something else
 
Hi and welcome,

Bit of a shock, isn't it! Things will fall into place after a while and the confusion will disappear. You have done the right thing in finding this forum. You will find a lot of help and support here. Have a good read round the forum threads and also the main website. Try to learn about the condition, what the blood tests mean, what all the numbers mean, and what we can do to control our blood sugar levels.

I will tag @daisy1 who will give you a lot of useful and important information, so have a good read of her post.

Drinks that contains sugar are not a good idea. If I need a soft drink I use a Robinsons no sugar cordial but normally I stick to water. I would stop the normal coke in your vodkas and change to the coke zero versions. Your nurse was quite right about fresh fruit juices. They are full of sugar. (natural sugar from the fruit, but nonetheless sugar)

It isn't just sugar that matters. Sugar is one carbohydrate, and all carbs convert to sugar once inside the system, so the fewer carbs you eat, the better. The main culprits are bread (of any colour), potatoes, rice, pasta, breakfast cereals and anything made with flour.

After you've had a read round, come back and ask about anything you don't understand.
 
Hi @bigjim19 You say you don't like a lot of things now, but many people report on here that their taste buds change and improve when they give up sugar :)
 
@bigjim19 - Hello and Welcome to the Forum. :) We have all been in your situation, but just take 1 day at a time you will come to grips with it. As already mentioned by the above member - Bluetit1802 ask as many questions as you want. You will find we are all friendly, helpful and supportive to each other.
 
Hi Jim,
I'm relatively new here too.
Thankfully I do like Tea - though my single spoon of sugar is now converted to a sweetner!
Fortunately I 'gave up' the 'full fat' fizzy drinks many years ago in favour of the diet varieties and even before being 'labelled' found full sugar drinks tooo sweet and sickly. Like you however I did drink a lot of OJ and diet Lemonade as a healthy option (ha ha!!) - only now realising just how much sugar they are stuffed with - now a thing of the past!
You might want to consider moving to the diet / zero drinks, it is probably one of the more easier adjustments you may want to consider and will help reduce your sugar intake significantly.
Be aware almost all advice and guidance you will shortly get will conflict and be contradictory ..... including how some consider diet drinks to be dangerous / unhealthy etc etc. I would consider the odd Pepsi Max, Diet Coke etc less dangerous than some other habits I know some feel they must continue with!
Good luck with your journey!
 
@bigjim19
Hello Jim and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It contains advice on carbs and levels and includes a link to the Low Carb Program which you might like to try. Just ask if you have any questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. You do need to abstain from drinks that contain sugar other than in very small quantities. Standard Coke etc is not good at all. Do follow Daisy's advice about carbs.
 
Welcome to your diabetic support.
Diabetes nurse and team will support you through medical intervention to get your blood glucose lowered, and quick.
We are here for advice and unlimited experience living a full productive, satisfying life as a type 2 sufferer.
Don't let some experiences scare you. A lot of long term diabetic never had the info and support which is around today. You're in good hands.
Please avoid sugary drinks. Ultimately if you can change your diet to a low carb one you will see a huge difference in your diabetic status. Diabetes currently isn't curable but I'm a great believer in good maintenance is a huge step in the right direction.
Most of us test our sugar with a meter, a few times a day.
Please ask for a meter from your diabetic nurse. If you don't qualify for a free one and prescription strips for it, you can buy a discounted one with cheaper strips than prescription ones. Search codefree meter on these forums for the codes for discount and you will qualify for no vat too.
Give yourself a few days to digest info so far.
Hope to see your questions soon. :)
 
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