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Modingle

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Hello everyone - I was diagnosed on Tues with Type2 - I have done loads of reading - even before diagnosis as I was expecting it - I am keen to try home testing and working out what is 'good' and what is 'bad' for me. I have an appt with nurse in 2 weeks to get results of the tests that measure your levels over the last 3 months and also cholesterol. I had a phone appt with her today and asked about a meter and strips but was told this was not necessary at the moment. I was advised to keep losing weight and to take more exercise. This I am doing and have been doing for the last few months as I was already attending the nurse for weight loss. I have gone into Boots today and purchased a Freedom Lite meter but was shocked at the price of the strips. I was told I would (if needed) get strips on prescription and as I live in Scotland this would be free. Do you think I would be entitled to these - following NICE guidelines or would my request be refused as the nurse reckoned I didn't need to use meter yet. I am on holiday for the next couple of weeks so feel it would be a good time to assess my diet and make changes. When I work I do 10 hour shifts and sometimes my breaks are all over the place so I need to try and take food to work that will keep my levels ok.


Being new to all this I am maybe getting ahead of myself and I would appreciate any advice.

Thank you for reading :D
 
Hi, I have been type 2 since 2001. Everything is very new, strange, and probably more than a bit scary just now. This is normal. As you have just been diagnosed, the medics will try and see what your 3month test (the Hba1c) shows as regards to establishing what your levels are at present. They all bang on about exercise! They will most likely send you to a dietician who will look at what you eat, when you eat (no more fish suppers!) to see if your food is sensible. I changed from cornflake at breakfast as they made my glucos levels spike to porridge which is absorbed more slowly. I changed from white to brown bread for the same reason. The diabetic nurse described it as 'making it hard for the body to get at the sugar'. Above all, don't worry. Seriously! Don't worry. In a few months things will settle down as you get to know what you should eat, as your weight lowers it will help your levels, and you will begin to feel better and more confident about your diabetes. You will see on this forum many people saying that strips are sometimes rationed/refused and you have already found out why! In the coming months you will find the medics discouraging home testing as diet and perhaps tablets should not really require home testing. If at some point you need to be treated with insulin they may change their minds. I use insulin and my figures are now where they ought to be, so I will test less often. Don't, whatever you do, become a slave to meter figures as some on this forum seem to be. You really do not have to achieve 5.8 every time!!!! I wish you well, and above all, stay positive. Best Wishes.
 
Hi Modingle and welcome to the forum :)

There are a lot of things to learn to start with but you will soon get the hang of it and the best thing was to join this forum. Here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. Welcome to the large group of fellow diabetics. Do follow the links and info in Daisy's post and control your carbs and keep them low-GI. As you weight comes down your insulin resistance will reduce and so will your blood sugar. If you can't achieve the NICE guideline figures then you may be put onto Metformin which is a good safe drug. Yes, strips are expensive. Look at the web for best prices and you will find some suppliers will provide them VAT-free as you are entitled to this as a diabetic
 
Hello all - just an update to how things are going - following visit to DN I got my results back HbA1c 44/6.2 Cholesterol 5.8 blood pressure 132/80 - so not too bad. I was refused test strips on prescription so buying my own at the moment. I am to be reviewed in 3 months to see how things are going. I had visit to nurse today for weight management and I haven't lost anything over the last 3 weeks despite cutting out chocolate, crisps, cakes and biscuits. I thought I had lost something as a lot of my clothes feel looser so I don't understand what's going on. Nurse took me through understanding food labelling and how to work out carbs and advised me to go home and check my cupboards & fridge and read the labels. I amazed by some of the carb counts in some of the things I thought were 'healthy' e.g Shape delight crumble yogurts average 14.0g per pot and the Go Ahead Yogurt biscuits are 26.6g for 2. These are items I was including in my box for work as I work 10 hour (12-10) shifts broken into 2 breaks then dinner then 1 more break and I try to eat sensibly over the shift. I have sat today on my day off and worked out carb content of a lot of the foods I eat regularly so I know a bit better now what to eat. I'm going to try to stick to 130g day to see how it works.
Monitoring has been going well but I have calmed down from the initial test test test - I test in morning before breakfast and as I eat the same breakfast every morning I don't bother 2 hours after anymore as I know what reading will be. I test before dinner and sometimes 2 hours after. I always test 2 hours after if I try something new to see what effect it is having.
I try to have a walk every day and a session on the exercise bike but will need to up the exercise once the weather improves.
So all in all things are going ok and I think it's finally sunk in what's going on - I did have a bit of a blip on Comic Relief night as the place I work was answering calls for donations and there was so much food and baking on offer I just couldn't resist. I have noticed the old joints don't seem to be aching so much but maybe that's just my imagination lol :P
 
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