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Newbie here - What should my blood glucose be between?

SallyJaneW

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Hi All,

I've had Impaired Glucose Tolerance for years and in the last 4 weeks have been diagnosed as Type 2. I'm on tablets (not Metformin as I'm intolerant to it) and continue monitoring my diet.

My Diabetic Nurse tells me one minute I'm fine and then the next, to take Type 2 seriously!!! Sadly my dad died at 54 through miscontrolled diabetes by his GP, but that's another story!

Anyway, neither the Diabetic Nurse or the Diabetic GP I have to see, have actually told me what levels I should be aiming for! I'm doing my blood before every meal and then once after 2 hours on one meal, as per GP instructions. Highest level is 10.3 (high I know) and lowest is 5.0 (about right I think?)

Could somebody just confirm what figures I should be working towards?

Many thanks,

Sally x
 
Re: Newbie here - What should by blood glucose be between?

Hi Sally

Have a look at Daisy's welcome post.

To summarise re the readings for you -

Before food between 4-7
2 hours after food <8.5 many of us ultimately pprefer to go for <7.8 as that's the recognised level where damage begins.

Sorry to hear about your Dad. I'm sure you're determined to do all you can to avoid problems.

First thing is take control of your own diabetes, your gp and DSN etc will doll out standard advise which for many of us is bad. Eg eat a starchy carb with every meal. Many of us couldn;t handle that without our BG going mad. So what you need to do is test and keep a diary (unless you have a mega memory). If you get a high read, reduce or remove the carb in that meal.

It's facinating. What you can eat, I maybe can't or I could at a different tiime of the day.

Mary x
 
Re: Newbie here - What should by blood glucose be between?

Thanks for that Mary!

Sometimes though I think well if my blood glucose is a normal level, am I actually diabetic? Does that make sense?

The nurse says that I won't ever NOT be diabetic ..... it's all so confusing!

Another thing is that everybody thinks they know what I can and can't eat, even though they're not diabetic or even have a close family member who is! :evil:

S x
 
Re: Newbie here - What should by blood glucose be between?

Sally,

Re the everyone thinking they know best - that wont change until you educate them re carbs - they'll just think you can have sweets. Then they'll get worse lol

I had the same conversation with myself re being always a diabetic. I was fuming in fact - "so, if I bring my levels down and they did a random test I wouldn't show up as diabetic" " I was unlucky to get 2 high reads" " wha'ts the difference to me and my hubby who had a high read after a pizza? but they call me a DIABETIC" I then reasononed with myself - If I went to a hotel or friends for the week and ate what they supplied for the whole week, my levels would shoot up. I'm only getting non-diabetic readings because of my low - carb choices.

So - all that rambling is to say yes - you'll always be diabetic, in a very short time a well controlled diabetic with non- diabetic blood glucose readings :P

Mary x
 
Re: Newbie here - What should by blood glucose be between?

MaryJ is quite right. I've been low-carbing since April 2010, and I would not be diagnosed diabetic now because I'm hardly ever outside the non-diabetic blood glucose range. I like my levels to be always in the 5s 2 hours after eating, and preferably in the 4s or very low 5s for fasting/before eating.

But if I went back to eating lots of carbs every day I'd soon be back into diabetic blood glucose levels. It can't be "cured". But it can be "controlled".

For reference, non-diabetic levels are: 3.5 - 5.5 before meals; less than 8, 2 hours after. HbA1c - between 4.6 and 5.5.

Viv 8)
 
Re: Newbie here - What should by blood glucose be between?

Hi Sally Jane and welcome to the forum :)

You have already received some good advice from several members and here is some more. This is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
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