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Newbie need help neuropathy?

msuhendro

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi i was searching the net for answers to my condition and am so glad to find this forum. I am 45 yr old, 173 cm male and weigh 116 kg. On 7 th of feb i was under a lot of stress because of lack of sleep and family issue. I suddenly felt the urge to urinate frequently and felt thirst and nausea. This really scared me because i have been prediabetic before. So the following day i took drastic cut on white rice, sweet stuffs, and red meat. This extreme diet made me lost 8 kg in 20 days. On 19 of feb i had my blood tested. My hbA1c is 5.9%. The doctor told me there is no medication and just lose weight to an ideal range of 69 - 77 kg and to be on low carb diet. Now, I have been doing moderate jogging daily for 30 - 1 hour to lose weight. Currently ive experienced tingling, slight numbness, needle pricking, warm and cold feeling on legs and hands. Ive had this for 10 days already. Is it common for prediabetic to develop neuropathy? I will do another blood test in a week or so to check whether my exercise and losing weight is in the right direction. Thank you for any info and advise
 
Hi welcome to the forum, yes I think more people with prediabetes experience neuropathy. Some people experience your symptoms when they take action to improve their health and this is sometimes the healing process from higher sugar levels. Have you spoken to your doctor about your symptoms?

It might be helpful if you search for articles both on the forum and also on good medical sites on prediabetes and neuropathy.

Tagging @daisy1 for a new member post for you
 
@msuhendro

Hello Msuhendro and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Did the symptoms start around the same time as taking up the jogging?
 
Hi thank you for all the replies. I started light jogging or fast walking on the 8th and i felt this tingling sensation on 17th evening. Now I still feel needle pricking, toe slight numbness, warm splash on lower shin area. Occassional cold sensation on both arm and lev. Btw my fasting uric acid is 428. I have since stopped the exercise 2 days ago to see whether the walkings was the culprit. Ive talked with people who are high in uric acid. They felt only few of my symptoms
 
I started light jogging or fast walking on the 8th and i felt this tingling sensation on 17th evening.
Sometimes feeling discomfort in the feet can be a sign that previously you had some nerve damage causing numbness and now due to your exercise your nerves are recovering. If so, the discomfort just has to be endured and eventually with more progress will go away. So don't give up the jogging! However, do examine your feet very carefully to make sure there are no cuts or other damage, as with diabetes it is very important to take great care of them.
 
Numbness and tingling are pretty vague/common things to experience. Diabetic neuropathy is by definition something that is experienced by diabetics, generally who have had the disease for quite a bit of time. It doesn't seem like you fit into that category to me.
 
I just checked my uric acid and it was normal. Today i started feeling joint discomfort on my left knee, the toe numbness still there come and go, more weird muscle discomfort on arms and legs, just come and go. I will check my BG post prandall this Saturday
 
I just checked my uric acid and it was normal. Today i started feeling joint discomfort on my left knee, the toe numbness still there come and go, more weird muscle discomfort on arms and legs, just come and go. I will check my BG post prandall this Saturday
What does uric acid have to do with anything? And it doesn't diagnose gout either.
 
I just checked my fasting bg is 97 and 2 hours after eating is 113. They said im normal. However I still feel some pain and needle. Now i feel some joint and muscle dull pain. When i woke up today my hand is stiff. 2 days ago i had head tension, like i was wearing a helmet on the back of my head. And on occassion dull headache. Today i feel much better with my head but my legs are a bit weak and warm on right shin. Tomorrow im gonna see a different doctor
 
Hi im newbie as well had same issue strait after extreme diet exercise and normalizing my blood sugars it was 2 weeks after diagnosis when it's started .I've started taking
Alpha lipid acid and b vitamins.After 2 month my problems with hands and feet stopped
 
Went to see GP after developing I think neurophaty but no help there ,was offered pain killers and sent home
 
A lot of people who don't have diabetes suffer with forms of neuropathy, ,my wife has for many years..severe pain etc but shes not diabetic, i on the other hand do not suffer but have been diabetic for 10yrs...i was asked to join a study at local hospital in research about the problem...my feet were examined by a doplar test machine looking at the blood flow in my feet. This showed i had a restricted or lower than normal flow and the researcher was very surprised that i was not suffering any pain or tingling etc...so the two are not always linked
 
I'm prediabetic with neuropathy in both feet. I've posted several times about this over the last year or so.
 
Went to see GP after developing I think neurophaty but no help there ,was offered pain killers and sent home
I just checked with a neurologist and she said this neuropathy and spasmophilia could happen because of my hbA1c of 5.9%. Ive been prediabetic for over a year or maybe more. The symptoms of dry mouth and frequent urination just hapened on last month feb 7. On17th i felt tingling and needle pain with some numbness. This happen after i began a serious workout and diet since 7 th of feb.

They did an emg to me and prior to this i dont feel muscle twitching, now i do. I will continue my exercise and diet. And will take supplement of ala and b 12. In 2 months time ill ck my hbA1c level
 
hey did an emg to me and prior to this i dont feel muscle twitching, now i do.
I had big problems with legs: non-healing crevices on both foots - after BG in the limit, they disappeared. So my advice is to concentrate on BG first and the problem can dissappear itself...
 
I just checked with a neurologist and she said this neuropathy and spasmophilia could happen because of my hbA1c of 5.9%. Ive been prediabetic for over a year or maybe more. The symptoms of dry mouth and frequent urination just hapened on last month feb 7. On17th i felt tingling and needle pain with some numbness. This happen after i began a serious workout and diet since 7 th of feb.

They did an emg to me and prior to this i dont feel muscle twitching, now i do. I will continue my exercise and diet. And will take supplement of ala and b 12. In 2 months time ill ck my hbA1c level
Hi try to check your sugar spikes 40 min and 1 h after usual food containing carbs
Apparently neurophaty can develop from the post meal spikes only,if the blood sugar is over 140 or 7.8 at any time
Even though 2 h post meal sugar can be ok the 1 h after spike can be dangerous
I feeling needles in my hands and feet strait after my sugar rises over 9.0 30 min after meal although my 2 hours after meal readings are usually ok
 
Hi try to check your sugar spikes 40 min and 1 h after usual food containing carbs
Apparently neurophaty can develop from the post meal spikes only,if the blood sugar is over 140 or 7.8 at any time
Even though 2 h post meal sugar can be ok the 1 h after spike can be dangerous
I feeling needles in my hands and feet strait after my sugar rises over 9.0 30 min after meal although my 2 hours after meal readings are usually ok
Hi Lucas thank you for pointing this. I suspect it was my sugar spike causing this neuropathy. Yesterday after eating big dinner with rice, pasta and sweets my fasting glucose came to 104. Last night around 5 i also had big buffet feast. I will check what my fasting level is around 8 am.
 
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