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Gillsmaad

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi
I am newly diagnosed and understand i need to change my eating habits and have started the low carb programme which I am finding difficult as I seem to be hungry all the time now ive cut bread potatoes etc. My question is that as i also have an underactive thyroid, fibromyalgia, depression, anxiety, bad back and knee will i lose any weight on the low carb? are there others on here with similar conditions that could offer some advise.
Feeling at a loss on what to eat to help satisfy hunger and feeling that my life is on the end run :-( and I'm not ready to give up

Thanks in advance
G
 
Hello, and welcome! I'm tagging @daisy1 for you, who'll give you a bunch of useful information. You write that you have cut out a lot of carby foods, but have you also added other food to replace the calories you don't eat now you ditched the carbs? If not, it's no wonder you're hungry!
Many people eat more fat to replace the carbs. For instance, bacon, eggs and cheese are perfectly fine for your blood sugar! I'm not particularly low-carb but there will be people soon who can help you look into your diet :)
 
Hi gillsmaad
I’ve been on a low carb diet for nine and a half months now, since my Type 2 diagnosis, which has successfully got my blood sugars under control and I have seen significant weight loss. That’s with little additional exercise due to having osteoarthritis. I just try to walk more when I can. Are you making sure you have upped your fat intake to compensate for the reduced carbs. Fats will fill you up and stop the hunger, but won’t make you fat. It takes a while to see that’s really true as we have been taught to believe fat is bad.
A few little things you can do are fry your food in butter, add double cream to your coffee, eat nuts as snacks. Is it the Diet Dr or the DCUK program you are following? Personally I preferred to find my own way and adapted meals I was familiar with instead.
 
Hi
I am newly diagnosed and understand i need to change my eating habits and have started the low carb programme which I am finding difficult as I seem to be hungry all the time now ive cut bread potatoes etc. My question is that as i also have an underactive thyroid, fibromyalgia, depression, anxiety, bad back and knee will i lose any weight on the low carb? are there others on here with similar conditions that could offer some advise.
Feeling at a loss on what to eat to help satisfy hunger and feeling that my life is on the end run :-( and I'm not ready to give up

Thanks in advance
G
Hi and welcome.
I was diagnosed completely out of the blue in October last year.
After the shock and some tears I did my own research and found this forum and the Diet Doctor website. Needless to say what I read made some sense and I decided to ignore the NHS advice and swapped to low carb diet in the new year.
Had my first check up 6th February, my blood glucose levels are already down in the pre diabetic range and I’ve lost 3 stone to date. I have found low carb substitutes for the things that I really miss, for example bread, otherwise I eat a fairly varied diet, omelettes plain, with cheese or ham, mushrooms, tomatoes, spring onions etc, cauliflower as a substitute for rice, my personal favourite is from Iceland or made into a soup, lovely recipe on the diet Doctor website, plenty of meat and veg or salad, fish and eggs, bacon and mushrooms for breakfast on a weekend. You will find your own favourites and before long you won’t feel like you are missing out. I still have an Indian takeaway but have cauli rice and eating out I replace chips with salad or veg. I even have a little bit of chocolate now and then.
You can do this, you owe it to yourself to do it, the consequences of not trying are all the motivation I needed and already I feel so much better. Good luck
 
Hello, and welcome! I'm tagging @daisy1 for you, who'll give you a bunch of useful information. You write that you have cut out a lot of carby foods, but have you also added other food to replace the calories you don't eat now you ditched the carbs? If not, it's no wonder you're hungry!
Many people eat more fat to replace the carbs. For instance, bacon, eggs and cheese are perfectly fine for your blood sugar! I'm not particularly low-carb but there will be people soon who can help you look into your diet :)
Thank you do i have to message Daisy1?
 
Hi gillsmaad
I’ve been on a low carb diet for nine and a half months now, since my Type 2 diagnosis, which has successfully got my blood sugars under control and I have seen significant weight loss. That’s with little additional exercise due to having osteoarthritis. I just try to walk more when I can. Are you making sure you have upped your fat intake to compensate for the reduced carbs. Fats will fill you up and stop the hunger, but won’t make you fat. It takes a while to see that’s really true as we have been taught to believe fat is bad.
A few little things you can do are fry your food in butter, add double cream to your coffee, eat nuts as snacks. Is it the Diet Dr or the DCUK program you are following? Personally I preferred to find my own way and adapted meals I was familiar with instead.
Thank you Rachox i will try some of your suggestions I am following dcuk but am looking at diet doc too
 
Hi and welcome.
I was diagnosed completely out of the blue in October last year.
After the shock and some tears I did my own research and found this forum and the Diet Doctor website. Needless to say what I read made some sense and I decided to ignore the NHS advice and swapped to low carb diet in the new year.
Had my first check up 6th February, my blood glucose levels are already down in the pre diabetic range and I’ve lost 3 stone to date. I have found low carb substitutes for the things that I really miss, for example bread, otherwise I eat a fairly varied diet, omelettes plain, with cheese or ham, mushrooms, tomatoes, spring onions etc, cauliflower as a substitute for rice, my personal favourite is from Iceland or made into a soup, lovely recipe on the diet Doctor website, plenty of meat and veg or salad, fish and eggs, bacon and mushrooms for breakfast on a weekend. You will find your own favourites and before long you won’t feel like you are missing out. I still have an Indian takeaway but have cauli rice and eating out I replace chips with salad or veg. I even have a little bit of chocolate now and then.
You can do this, you owe it to yourself to do it, the consequences of not trying are all the motivation I needed and already I feel so much better. Good luck
Thanks Jayney27 well done on your weight loss I am worried i wont lose any due to my thyroid
 
I am worried i wont lose any due to my thyroid
At the top right of the page there is a search bar. If you type thyroid in the bar, the site comes up with a lot of threads dealing with the combination of diabetes and thyroid problems. And of course you can start a new thread with a title like 'Thyroid problems and losing weight'.
Good luck, both with finding your way on the forum and with finding your way around diabetes!
 
@gilllsmaad

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions if you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Thanks Jayney27 well done on your weight loss I am worried i wont lose any due to my thyroid
Hi, I’m not sure how that will impact on weight loss or eating low carb, sorry. Maybe ask here as I’m sure someone will know.
 
At the top right of the page there is a search bar. If you type thyroid in the bar, the site comes up with a lot of threads dealing with the combination of diabetes and thyroid problems. And of course you can start a new thread with a title like 'Thyroid problems and losing weight'.
Good luck, both with finding your way on the forum and with finding your way around diabetes!
Thank you Antje77 i will have a look
 
@gilllsmaad

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions if you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
hi Daisy1thank you for the information i certainly have lots to read through x
 
My thyroid doesn't work any more - I take 175micrograms of Thyroxine a day and that seems to sort it.
I eat low carb to control my blood glucose and that seems to control my weight. I have not added any weight after the initial loss, but want to go on losing - I am not sure if it is my trying to increase muscle mass causing the problem - and I am pretty sure that once I can start to use my trampoline in the garden again I will find a way to lower my weight.
My size and shape do seem to be changing - I need more cushioning on chairs now, and my kilt will go round me twice rather than one and a half times. I am definitely seeing alterations, rather than being stalled completely.
 
My thyroid doesn't work any more - I take 175micrograms of Thyroxine a day and that seems to sort it.
I eat low carb to control my blood glucose and that seems to control my weight. I have not added any weight after the initial loss, but want to go on losing - I am not sure if it is my trying to increase muscle mass causing the problem - and I am pretty sure that once I can start to use my trampoline in the garden again I will find a way to lower my weight.
My size and shape do seem to be changing - I need more cushioning on chairs now, and my kilt will go round me twice rather than one and a half times. I am definitely seeing alterations, rather than being stalled completely.
Hi Resurgam
That is brilliant well done you. i am currently on 150mg of levothyroxine my gp says I'm on max! my tsh is currently on 12 which is too low for me. being newly diagnosed makes me not sure what is making me feel ill although i think it is my thyroid
 
Hi Resurgam
That is brilliant well done you. i am currently on 150mg of levothyroxine my gp says I'm on max! my tsh is currently on 12 which is too low for me. being newly diagnosed makes me not sure what is making me feel ill although i think it is my thyroid
That is odd - I'd ask for a check on that - I took 200micrograms of Thyroxine for a long time, now on 175. If you need more, you really do need more.
 
That is odd - I'd ask for a check on that - I took 200micrograms of Thyroxine for a long time, now on 175. If you need more, you really do need more.
Yes you are right Resurgam. I am going to book in and see what they have to say but ideally i will want to be prescribed T3 so we shall see. It gets confusing in having a couple of different problems I'm not even sure what symptoms there are for T2 and if any are similar to underactive thyroid. i will probably be fobbed off with oh its your Fibromyalgia :-(
 
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