I thought Prof T recommended 15% or 20% weight loss, I can't remember which now. Where has 25% come from? Is there some more recent advice?
I'm very recently diagnosed and currently LCHF and am losing weight but am considering the ND in the future. Very much doubt I could lose 25% though - that would make me half a stone lighter than when I was 20 and there was not an ounce of fat on me!
That reminds me of what spurred me on to lose more weight although all around were saying how skinny I was. The hairy bikers diet show had Prof T stating that you should be able to fit into jeans you had when you were 18. I joined the army at 16 so at 18 I had 30" jeans so I committed to getting into that size. Took a while, but now I have and it was the best advice I had. Interestingly though at my waist size now (94cm) I am at the limit of normal/healthy waist size for a man even though I am constantly told how thin I am.Hi Brettsza
Not specifically - I just wanted to be classified as 'normal'. I was stung by the stigma of being 'overweight'. A GP said to me 'the simple fact of it is - you are diabetic because you are fat'.
I do have a fairly thick skin - but it eats away at you over time. I was once in the military and a bit of a gym junkie - so I do have fond memories of being within a 'normal' weight threshold.
I think somewhere around 21 - 23 bmi would be fine, as long as it is below my 'personal' threshold for T2. 82.5kg is my target weight - which will be 23 BMI.
I had that too, just the same, even people in the street lol. They are just not used to seeing you thinner. I started saying no I'm just on a diet. But then my dark sense of humour kicked in and I said "the gp says I have a chronic progressive disorder that will lead to my untimely death" lolHi T
I'm getting concerned comments from family and friends too. There seems to be some subliminal relationship between weight loss and illness - I am constantly asked if I am 'ok', or 'unwell', and even 'do you have cancer'!!!! Yikes!
I agree Steve. I'm using Exante products following a 600 calorie per day 8 week plan. My non-diabetic wife is also using them on a 1200 calorie plan for a few weeks too, so plenty of moral support there. This works for us as we find it a "faff" to measure & weigh things all the time so, although they're not the most palatable of meals, after a short period of adjustment, they're quite acceptable for the short term.Hi Rob. By way of encouragement - (moreso than advise), I hope you can stick with the ND. It's certainly brave of you.
For me the most difficult things have been social occasions where I sit down at a table full of food (which I have prepared) and eat a salad and drink water - while the family drink wine. If you have enough resolve to manage that - then you should be ok.
I kept telling myself it was only for 56 days. But then I got to a point where I felt 'inside' the program. I mean, I had invested so much and done so much of the hard stuff that to give up or cheat would undermine everything I had done.
Now I am feeling a little concerned about coming off the ND. I don't want to be out of control again and I don't want to rebound. To some extent, the ND is keeping me disciplined and in control.
in short - I think the physical aspect of this is easier than the way it messes with your head!
Steve - good to hear you are still going, day 5 for me. I have a general question, are you still taking medication while on the diat or not?Day 27. Weight has plateaued - but remains lower than it has been in years - so not stressing. BMI still 24.3. Fasting blood 4.9.
Rob keep us updated and this will keep you motivated.Good luck.I agree Steve. I'm using Exante products following a 600 calorie per day 8 week plan. My non-diabetic wife is also using them on a 1200 calorie plan for a few weeks too, so plenty of moral support there. This works for us as we find it a "faff" to measure & weigh things all the time so, although they're not the most palatable of meals, after a short period of adjustment, they're quite acceptable for the short term.
I think that once I've achieved targets (weight, BP & BG) I'll move over to a low-carb regime for a more extended period to monitor numbers, reduce metformin & BP meds. I did do Atkins years ago (pre-diabetes) and enjoyed that, so low carb is a variation of that theme that should work for both of us.
My incentive is wanting to be around as long as I can for my 7 year old son (I'm 59, wife is 49). For years I'd accepted the GP's party-line, "It's a progressive, irreversible condition. Meds will increase over time and then onto insulin (very close on last blood results), it's normal, etc., etc" and used meds to mask my obviously inadequate dietary control. After my last blood tests 2 months ago followed by a further increase of meds and experiencing some hypos on gliclazide, I decided to become better informed, found this forum, bought a BG monitor and the went to the GP's this week after blood tests last week armed with 1 week's worth of fantastic figures. He was "mightily impressed", agreed with my plan & weaning off of meds suggestions and agreed to prescribe my test strips & lancets on repeat prescriptions too. For the first time in a few years I walked out of a GP's appontment with a smile on my face rather than being down about having my medication increased once more. I do now feel that I am in control. Information is power to my mind.
Hi Rob. By way of encouragement - (moreso than advise), I hope you can stick with the ND. It's certainly brave of you.
For me the most difficult things have been social occasions where I sit down at a table full of food (which I have prepared) and eat a salad and drink water - while the family drink wine. If you have enough resolve to manage that - then you should be ok.
I kept telling myself it was only for 56 days. But then I got to a point where I felt 'inside' the program. I mean, I had invested so much and done so much of the hard stuff that to give up or cheat would undermine everything I had done.
Now I am feeling a little concerned about coming off the ND. I don't want to be out of control again and I don't want to rebound. To some extent, the ND is keeping me disciplined and in control.
in short - I think the physical aspect of this is easier than the way it messes with your head!
Hi TelandySteve - good to hear you are still going, day 5 for me. I have a general question, are you still taking medication while on the diat or not?
Thanks Steve50 I just watched Dr Fung's video on page 24, it gave me some inspiration, just had my shake, I have come off of meds altogether, let the body sort itself out. Let us know how you get on if you come off the meds.Hi Telandy
So far I am still on meds - but as this is the mid way point I'm going to see if I can come off them. But I am only on low doses - they threatened to put them up but didn't as I was going on the ND.
In our last conversation the DN sais she was not able to attribute my blood levels to the diet - as I was still on meds. It takes 3 months for you blood to fully recycle - so I will have to come off the meds, then wait 3 more months till I know which it is.
TelandyThanks Steve50 I just watched Dr Fung's video on page 24, it gave me some inspiration, just had my shake, I have come off of meds altogether, let the body sort itself out. Let us know how you get on if you come off the meds.
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