Newly Diagnosed (Blood test 14.2?)

Simon_G

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Was told Monday just gone that I was diabetic (the signs were there and have been for years, just not picked up on by the doctors).
Im 36, type 2, 19 1/2 stone, little exercise, with a 14.2 after 10hrs of fasting. Apparently thats pretty bad?
Had the glucose tolerance test (the Lucozade one) last year and it came back as 5.9 and I was told I was borderline. The doctor back then did not follow it up so I assumed there was no problem.

Got an appointment on Friday with someone at my GP's so we can work out an action plan and I can get tanked up with tablets. Wish me luck ;)
 

MaryJ

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Welcome Simon

Daisy will be along soon with some very useful advice.

Re - action plan and getting tanked up on tablets.

1- Action plan????? sorry to sound cynical - the usual NHS advise is shockingly bad for most T2's. You're better off on here, if you don't mind me saying.

2- tanked up on tablets - doesn't have to be that way. By modifying your diet and if you can increasing exercise it is very possible to control your diabetes without meds

Whether you are able to do this depends on how much insulin you are producing yourself and how prepared you are to follow a low carb diet. There's no right or wrong way, it's what you can sustain. This isn't now a 'diet' it' s a lifelong change.

Sounds daunting - but I can honestly say 'it;s the best thing that could have happend to me'
Mary x
 

daisy1

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Hi Simon and welcome to the forum :)

This information which we give to new members should help you. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

Daibell

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Hi. As you appear to be overweight, having the right diet should have a great effect on your blood sugar and you may not need any tablets at least for a few years. Do follow the links Daisy has given. The NHS will focus on medication and often very bad diet advice. Keep the carb intake down and have low-GI carbs when you do. Have some exercise and I think you will see the weight and sugars reduce. Obtain a meter if possible and find out which foods affect you most by testing 2 hours after a meal. Good luck and come back with questions.
 

Cobra3164

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Hi Simon this is Simon, just awaiting results from c-peptide test, I had a BG test from my local chemist yesterday and the reading was 22.3 I am managing being nearly on a constant hypo, awaiting for doctor to ring with result and call me to sort out meds etc. Let us know how you get on with ur gp plus I would be interested in any dietry changes you make that are proving succesful will help me along the way. Good luck Simon.

All my best

Simon aka Cobra3164
 

GlazedDoughnuts

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Yeah that is a bad, lose some weight it may help reduce your blood sugars significantly.

Google Keto diet and adopt it, you'll lose weight super quick. Adding in some exercise would be a good idea too.
 

Simon_G

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Had my consultation today.

Had a BG test which came out at 11.2, fasting from around 12 last night, down from the 14.2 five days previously. Will be keeping my eye on this.

Was given Metformin 500mg (once a day for the first week then twice a day) and Simvastatin 20mg to (once a day) start with, with a rebooked appointment for 2 weeks to see if the tablets have had any affect. Was told about the need to check my feet (which I was not aware of before) and the usual horror stories about amputation etc. Have been booked in for a retina check and passed onto a Diabetics course to learn more about the condition and to talk to a nutritionist.

Have my HbA1c booked in for February and was given an AccuView and strips on prescription (was concerned about having to pay for strips, but it turns out there was no need to worry).

Went better than I thought it would. Just need to get my head around the food stuffs now and start logging my vitals. Oh the joys!
 

Ann19

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The Metformin very often gives people an 'upset' tummy, if you get it and it doesn't settle then ask for the slow release version. It's great that they've given you a meter and strips, many of us have to buy our own. If you control your levels then hopefully you shouldn't have to have your feet chopped off, LOL, don't you just love their reassurance that you can live with this and die with everything still there!

If you have any questions about what your meters results mean then just ask, you'll soon get the hang of it though. :crazy:

Ann
 

Simon_G

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Been fine on the Metformin, no obvious side effects which is always nice. Up to 2 500mg tabs a day now.

Morning BG readings have been from 11.2 to 9.9 since taking the tablets since Friday, but nowhere near the 14.2 when I had my "official" bg test a few weeks ago at the quacks, so I am hoping I am going in the right direction.

Need to read up on the whole carbs thing. Took my BG before sunday dinner, was at 7.9, had a load of meat, green veg and a few (I mean like 4 aunt bessies potatoes) and it shot up to 12 after 2hrs! Anyone got an idiots guide to carbs and the amounts that are safe?
 

diment

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just dont eat carbs !!!!!!!! and see how you improve,dont forget to walk ......and walk you will get better BG reading after your walks.
 

Simon_G

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Well nearly a year has passed....

I am currently 16st 12, so roughly 3 st lost in 12 months and that was not from trying, just a diet change to be fair. I had no problems taking the Metformin up until about 6 weeks ago when every time I took it I started feeling like rubbish about 30 mins afterwards. Also had two pretty major hypos recently which I have attributed to the Met seeing as my blood sugars were around 7 on one occasion, yet the raised body temperature, sweats, anxiety etc were all there.

Get my HbA1c results on Wednesday but looks like I will have to change my meds. I cannot keep on the Met that I know. I have not taken any for the last 7 days they are making me feel that bad. I know its idiotic in the long term, but I have had absolutely no adverse effects since stopping them. Its like I don't have diabetes any more, which would be highly unlikely. Just hope the doc can give me something that agrees with me more.

Will let you know how I get on.
 

paul-1976

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tomersn said:
I am 30 years old, pregnant, with no history of diabetes, usually normal menstruation, LMP2005-9-9, EDC2006-6-16.

Early pregnancy is slightly early pregnancy reaction, no exception. 16 weeks pregnant childbirth examination found that urine (+), enjoin food control. At 20 weeks of gestation (+ +), urine to Tangniaole capsules (traditional Chinese medicine oral hypoglycemic agents). 32 weeks gestation when the edema of lower limbs, limb numbness, fasting plasma glucose, 9.7mmol/L, to the glucose tolerance test, glucose 11.5mmol/L, 2 hour blood pressure 120/80mmHg, edema (+), was hospitalized, with Gan Shulin R (recombinant human insulin) half an hour before meals subcutaneous injection in the treatment of. To at 34+5 weeks of gestation without the incentive of the vagina, examination: blood pressure 130/95mmHg, edema (+ +); obstetric examination: external pelvimetry 24-26-19-9cm, waist 98cm, uterine height 39cm, first outcrop, floating, fetal LOA, fetal heart rate of 140, no uterine, anus check: membranes has been broken, Miyaguchi Mikai.

Was diagnosed with gestational diabetes mellitus, give me what to do.


That's quite amazing!! only a week ago you said you were a 19 year old male who was suffering with a sore penis(your post was removed) and your profile says your 83 years old with an HbA1c of C I have reported you a few times now for obvious spamming .