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Discussion in 'Greetings and Introductions' started by Bobbin_Lace, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. Bobbin_Lace

    Bobbin_Lace Type 2 · Member

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    Hi, I'm newly diagnosed type 2 diabetic. It was discovered by accident as part of a pre op assessment. My hb1ca was 116 and my blood glucose ranges from 16.7 to 28. I am on metaform 2000mg, I've changed my diet to low carb and no longer use sugar although I m still learning about natural sugar. I find that in the afternoons I feel worse and I'm finding it difficult to control my emotions. I would like to know what is the score I should be worried about re hyperglycaemia. I've been given a leaflet on hypoglycaemia but it doesn't apply to me at present. How do people cope with the mood swings. Any help would be gratefully received. I feel that I'm really struggling. Apparently the nurse said that I will probably need an extra different tablet but I have to be on the highest dosage for 2 weeks! Thanks in advance for any information.
     
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  2. AM1874

    AM1874 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Bobbin_Lace .. and welcome
    Can't comment on your meds but your numbers do seem high .. I'm sure that your Doc and/or Nurse will get you on the right package shortly ..

    Other than that, you have made a good move coming here. I was in the same position as you and many others when I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb .. pretty shocked with no information and no idea what was happening to me. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly ..

    Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

    I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites ...
    Low Carb Intro and Information
    Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

    I strongly recommend that you get yourself a meter for testing .. I suggest that you try the website at:
    https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
    for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 (you don't pay VAT) or:
    http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
    who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
    I have both for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them. Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them
    Hope this helps
     
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    Bobbin_Lace Type 2 · Member

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    Thank you for the info I will certainly look up the low carb info.
     
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    ukuleleplayer Type 2 · Active Member

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    AM1874 has given you good advice.
    I do the same...LCHF diet & testing.
    I also get the mood swings....brief, irrational feelings of anger. Haven't found an answer other than self control and will power.....both of which you'll develop dealing with diabetes. If anyone has better answers, I'll be pleased to hear them too.
     
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  5. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The mood swing is likely due to the sharp changes in glucose level. Our T2D brains are too used to high levels of glucose and the sudden normalization leaves it in a panic mode. Also usually we still retain excessive insulin response.

    A lower carb fats friendly diet will help to maintain the glucose/insulin stability. I find that some virgin coconut oil also helps to stabilize the mood as alternative fuel for the brain. Your mileage may vary. Good to do your own reading as well and draw your conclusion...

    All the best on your journey of recovery...
     
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    pleinster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Can't say I've had the mood swings...but then I am always a grumpy [email protected]*&a7d. Maybe other meds are a factor?
     
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    Liam1955 Type 2 · Master

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    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend

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    @Bobbin_Lace
    Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

    Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
    • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
    • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
     
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  9. Daibell

    Daibell LADA · Master

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    HI and welcome to the 'club'. Note that there really is no such thing as a 'natural' sugar versus glucose and fructose. They are all sugars and will increase your blood sugar so don't be tempted by the adverts for Agave etc as it's just another form of glucose/fructose and fructose is always best avoided as the body can't use it effectively and stores it as fat.
     
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    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    Phoenix55 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome @Bobbin_Lace. Have you tested your blood sugars when you experience the mood swings? It may help to establish a pattern. Sugars in any form are not your friends any more but if you can pull yourself away from your pillow and go for a walk before you start you will start to see better numbers. It is an interesting journey you have started, good luck.
     
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  12. Hammer1964

    Hammer1964 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Bobbin_Lace and welcome, this is the best site ever! People here are so knowledgeable and helpful. Any questions you have someone will know an answer or point you in the right direction. I am T2 and 10 weeks in but with the help of this forum, medication and diet change my levels have dropped significantly and my medication reduced and I am a happier person. Good luck on your journey, it is not easy but with determination it can be controlled.
     
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