Newly Diagnosed effecting my job.

[Patricia21]

Have you a HR department?If so ask to speek to them.
They have to have a very good reason to finish anyone even in the probation period.and sickness isnt one of them.
Dont give up if you like your job
Your condition will improve.If you are eating sensibly,It makes all the difference.

 

[jay hay-char]

i do have a contract but probationary periods means they can sack me for pretty much any reason

Not quite true. Assuming you are in the UK, you're covered by the Disability Discrimination Act, as already mentioned, and - as with most types of discrimination - you can make a complaint of unfair dismissal from Day 1 of your employment rather than having to wait until you have 2 years' service, and even if your contract specifies a probationary period, they must follow a reasonable procedure in terminating your employment.

However, my advice would be to sit down informally with someone, ideally HR/Personnel if there is such a function at your employer, or your boss if there isn't, and explain because you have just been diagnosed T2 there will be a period during which your body has to adjust to medication and a new regime, during which you will be less productive than normal. Go on to explain that, although you understand their concern about your ability to do the job whilst this is happening, it should be a relatively short period and that, all being well, you will be back to normal after a few weeks. If necessary, why not suggest that the probationary period be extended? Explain that what has happened is outside your control but is temporary and that your record over 15 years in Sales speaks for itself. Things will improve, probably surprisingly quickly, and it would be a pity for them to lose a committed and motivated employee, and for you to lose your job, over a temporary period of illness.

If at all possible, I would avoid going down the heavy legal route but if they start talking about not confirming your appointment it may be that you have to start making noises about discrimination. If you have to take that course of action it's essential to get some professional advice, perhaps from a Union Rep, if you belong to one, or from the Citizen's Advice Bureau - who will provide limited legal advice in such situations - if you don't. However, I hope you don't have to go down this route, as it usually means things will go pear-shaped and you'll be reduced to trying to salvage some compensation, to recover something from the wreckage.

Good luck.

 

[apaton]

That helps, how ever i understand the companies position, i went in through an employment agency who are asking for a large fee if they keep me on beyond the probation period, they have asked the agency for an extension. im off for a second day this week because i feel fuzzy, thirsty, tired etc which just means i cant do the job. but does look better than falling asleep at my desk which ive been doing especially in the afternoon

 

[jay hay-char]

That helps, how ever i understand the companies position,

Me too; I worked in HR for years . However, a good employer should be prepared to try and work with you on this, particularly if you approach it in a constructive way as well. I'd also expect the agency to be flexible in a situation like this - particularly if they want to carry on getting the company's business

 

[Totto]

i was diagnosed 3 weeks ago, they can see when it started to have a very negative effect on me, my performance dropped really quick, ive had 10 days total 4 of which they forced me to take and 5 days they forced me to work part time. ive had 2 spikes that have prevented me from going to work. i do have a contract but probationary periods means they can sack me for pretty much any reason

Are you sure you are type 2? You seem a bit too young and add rapid onset and high bg that isn't helped very much by low carbing I think you should be checked for antibodies and/or C-peptide test. It may be that metformin isn't the right drug for you. What is you weight and has it changed recently?

 

[apaton]

thats what they have told me, my mother got rapid on set t2 as well bit not till her 40s, im 20 stone and i have lost 2 stone in the past couple of months but i have increased the amount of exercise ive been doing. from what ive been reading on the forum im really not getting to grips with the low carb diet yet.

 

[Totto]

Exercise rarely has much effect on weight, low carbing has. I think you should consider the possibility you have an autoimmune diabetes. I'm not saying this is so, but it is possible.

Anyway, I find LCHF works perfectly for me. Have a look and see if you think you want to try it.
http://www.dietdoctor.com/diabetes
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

 

[apaton]

need to get of the mindset of having potatoes, rice, pasta etc with every meal

 

[tim2000s]

Two things.

1. if you don't stop eating the carbs with every meal, you will not reduce your blood glucose levels and metformin won't really help that much.
2. If you don't stop eating the carbs with every meal, any advice that you get from the forum regarding whether you may or may not have something other than T2 is ill advised as you aren't really doing anything to help yourself and are displaying symptoms of high glucose levels that you aren't really doing anything about.

You want to keep your job? Then stop eating the carb filled stuff and start to take care of yourself. Even with the Disability Discrimination act, if you don't, you will find that keeping your job and your life as it was will be much harder.

 

[apaton]

you are completly right and the no carbs thing i found on here yesterday, it was advice from my mother that i was trying to cut carbs out, didnt realize how many things have carbs until i read the very helpful links supplied by the members of the forum. My doctor on the other hand told to be eating more slow release carbs, which made me feel rubbish. its a big life style change and will take some getting use too.

 

[Totto]

need to get of the mindset of having potatoes, rice, pasta etc with every meal

You need to start looking at them as if they were unsuitable

Edit unnecessary word. Anna29

 

[AndBreathe]

I'm sort of agreeing with @Totto regarding your classification; T2 v T1 v T1.5 v LADA (all variations on a theme).

That you have cut down carbs but still have scores as you do could mean either you've not cut as much as you thought, or whilst you have cut carbs, your body is not able to get the insulin where it's needed to lower those scores.

I think you need a three pronged approach:

Firstly, really have long long hard look at your diet. If you are off sick today, you should have time to do it, then act upon what you learn.

Secondly, make arrangements to speak to HR and find out what their feelings are on your job. Your line manager may be speaking without real reference to HR. HR are there to look after you as well as the company. Make sure the person you deal with in HR has some experience of dealing with diabetic/diabetes related problems. But, I know from past observation that probationary periods can be precarious things. Were targets set for your probationary period? If so, how are you against those? Do you know the Company's overall view on sickness, and what would lead to an HR intervention, based on absence? If you don't, you have to find that out really.

Thirdly, book to see your doctor again, and ask him if he will support you with your work issues. you may need some for of certificate from him, to appease the agency that you have recently been diagnosed with something likely to impact on your performance, over the shorter term. Obviously, agencies are commercial organisations, and what you describe is (as we know), how they make their money. In my time in line management, I never, ever used agencies as I just hated the prospect of gambling 20-30% of someone's on-track earnings, based on a couple of weeks performance.

Good luck with it all. You have some work to do, but in this game of diabetes, we hold many of the tools to improve our situation in our own hands. Obviously, that's not necessarily everything we need, but there's much we can do.

 

[Daibell]

Hi and welcome. Getting diabetes affects people in many different ways. To be honest apart for possible bowel problems, Metformin has very few side effects and shouldn't be making you feel unwell. If you are having stomach problems then do ask for the Slow Release (SR) version. Having diabetes unless your sugars are into the 20s shouldn't make you feel physically ill but can make many people feel down and depressed but this should quickly pass and not affect your job. Do keep the carbs down as others have said as diet remains the best way to keep both blood suagr and weight down.

 

[apaton]

ive had next to no side effects on the metformin, blood glucose spikes are making me feel ill

 

[Sancho panza]

ive had next to no side effects on the metformin, blood glucose spikes are making me feel ill

So post what exactly have you eaten today and we will try to help
Don't omit anything out as it's not us who you will be kidding

 

[Sancho panza]

That helps, how ever i understand the companies position, i went in through an employment agency who are asking for a large fee if they keep me on beyond the probation period, they have asked the agency for an extension. im off for a second day this week because i feel fuzzy, thirsty, tired etc which just means i cant do the job. but does look better than falling asleep at my desk which ive been doing especially in the afternoon

So are you still being paid by the employment agency it reads to me that's the situation
It's understandable that the firm they are employing you out to has concerns and I think they are being more than reasonable with the agency by asking for an extension.

 

[apaton]

the agency dont pay me, ive been sent as a permanent member of staff, after 3 months they can get rid of me and get a replacement, i get paid by the company.

so today ive had cereal, bit of a mistake,
Bacon sandwich for lunch, again a mistake
home made curry, with half a cup of rice and half a poppadom

after reading the forum and low carb diets i thought i would experiment today and see what kind of levels im running at on a standard diet.

BG Levels
Fasting 11.1
after breakfast 12.9
before lunch 10.6
after lunch 16.1 i fell asleep for 3 hours after lunch
Before Dinner 11.1
after dinner 16.3

tomorrow im planning
Breakfast Bacon and Scrambled Eggs
Lunch Chicken Salad
Dinner home made Chili no rice cheese and soured cream
i will post my levels tomorrow

I think im going to need a snack in the afternoon not sure what to have

 

[CollieBoy]

@apaton
Tomorrow's menu looks nice!
Good luck.

 

[sanguine]

I think im going to need a snack in the afternoon not sure what to have

Try cheese or some nuts (Brazils probably best, but walnuts, hazelnuts, peanuts generally OK in moderation - cashews are more carby).

 

[apaton]

ok so really pleased so far today, had bacon and scrambled eggs for breakfast, chicken ceaser salad with cheese, and i tried greek yogurt and blue berries and the blood sugar is right down already fasting at 10.4 and been steadily going down all day now at 7.7