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Newly diagnosed. Hi.

rden66

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Location
uk
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
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Hi everyone, l'm Ross newly diagnosed,yet to see the diabetic nurse,a little confused but have been reading through the topics trying to make sense of it all. So much information to take in but wonderful advice from many people. Glad I found this site,I know that it's going to be a great help to me.
 
Hi Ross and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information which we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will come along and answer you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi - and welcome to the forums!! I was diagnosed out of the blue about 3 months ago - and was just as confused!! The G.P/nurse response was to just put me onto tablets, with no consideration of trying diet/exercise first. I didn't agree (slap on the wrist response from G.P - but stuck to my guns! Since then I have lost weight and with the help of these forums found a way of eating which has reduced my blood glucose levels - and I feel i am on track to being in control of the condition. The advice on here has been invaluable to me in this respect, so do spend some time looking around. I have found the use of a blood glucose monitor also invaluable - although this is an issue for most of us as G.P's will no longer prescribe the test strips to Type 2's. However, I bought my own - the cheapest out there I found was the Codefree monitor with affordable strips. This has helped me to monitor my levels on a regular basis, rather than having to rely on a 3 monthly HbA1C test, which just gives an average and doesn't help in determining what different foods do to levels on a daily basis. Believe me, you will get your head round it - but unfortunately this will be unlikely to be as a result of health advice, but from what you can find in terms of information via these threads. Good Luck! Julie
 
Hi and welcome. I've had diabetes now for almost 10 years and have been learning from the forum (and hopefully contributing) over the last few years. There's always something new to learn but you will find almost everything you need on this website. Yes, as Julie has said diet first priority, then tablets if needed and finally insulin if you get to that point but you may never need it. Do look at Daisy's dietary advice.
 
Hello
Don't expect too much from your meeting with the DB nurse. No doubt you will get the standard death wish HNS diet advice about eating. My advice would be to ignore it and go the low carb route. I do around 30 grams a day and have non DB numbers. I got here by testing the impact of foods with a blood glucose meter. So for example the NHS advised me to have porridge for breakfast. No thank you when that sent BG numbers into double figures.
Check out the low carb recipes. You will never be bored with food.
Cd
 
Thanks, will do. Even though I eat healthy anyway I have a lot to learn about what exactly to eat or not to eat to stabilise sugar levels. I'm trying to control it through diet at the moment. I have another blood test in December and if the diet hasn't worked then it'll be tablets, which I'm hoping to avoid for as long as possible

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Well I saw my dbn yesterday and the advice I got was pretty standard and mirrors what a lot of people have said. I did find it useful though if only to spur me on and go the low carb route. I have another blood test in December so my goal is to get below 7 fasting test.
Won't be disappointed if that doesn't happen but my aim is to achieve near normal levels without the need for medication.


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If you don't do so already I'd recommend you include exercise in your plans, even if it's only a 15 minute stroll after your main meals.
 
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