• Guest - w'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the 2025 Survey »

Newly Diagnosed - Partner Wants Second Opinion

Yashak

Newbie
Messages
4
Location
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi all - first post here!

Its been almost two weeks since I have been diagnosed with Type 2. I kinda felt it was inevitable, with bad eating habits and being over weight, however my Fiance seems to want a second opinion.

My A1C reading was only borderline high (6.9), and I have been self monitoring for a day now, with levels around 6.7. to 9.9 (the 9.9 was about an hour after eating a sneaky couple of Twisties and I was expecting it)

Last night I had mushrooms on grain toast for dinner and my reading 1 3/4 hours afterwards was 6.9
This morning my levels were 6.7

I am scheduled to have an educator visit in the next few weeks (we are in Australia) and 4 dietician appointments, but how can I get my Fiance to be more supportive and trying to deny the diagnosis

Could our doctor be wrong?

Also, any tips on how to make the blood taking process a little less painful (I have Accu Chek Nano and the lancets are killing my fingers - its set on 2) I have an Office job and my fingers are so painful!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hi & welcome,
I'm also very new 22 September and didn't start testing till late October. All I can say is my figures are similar to yours when diagnosed. I think it all comes as a shock, I think it took a few days till my partner started to realize how serious it could be if you did not get to grips with it from the start, it no use been in denial.
My view was to learn as much as possible and know where you are going. You will get a lot of help here I'm sure.
re the fingers try the side of the fingers rather than the tip & tops. Start the lacett at it's lowest and gradually increase, you will learn that some fingers need a higher setting and others work on a low setting. I ve been testing 7 times a day now for a few weeks and although I do not like it I do not have sore fingers.
I'm also new to forums and posting things, but did you introduce yourself in the correct forums as there is a few people here will give you some immediate info to help you.
Good luck
 
First welcome to the forums!

I never set my lance device above 1 because I don't need to go any higher to get blood from my fingers (and I've been testing for 11+ years now)

Being over weight means nothing when it comes to development of diabetes, there are ppl who are 300+ pounds who never develop it there are oh so many factors involved in development of it. My own mom was at BMI (middle of the range) when she got told she was t2 diabetic 30+ years ago.

It would be worth a second opion if you feel that its wrong - but it doesn't sound like it. Having a glucose tolerance test dun will give you a definitive answer if you've not had it already to say you have D or not. But even if its only Pre eating healthy and getting into more physical shape will not do you general harm because its in general good for you all around, and for your partner as well (if he's not active then double good for him as well).

My mate was active before meeting me, but not as active as me (10km walks are normal for me daily - for hir 3km was hir normal 8 years ago, now 10km+ is hir norm along with me).
 
Last edited by a moderator:
5.5 is normal before breakfast, over 7.1 they say is diabetic..then there is the GTT and A1c tests, any of these can show you're diabetic, low carb diet and exercise will get your bloods back to normal levels
have you got a NDSS card yet for your discount strips,

you do the side of your finger pad, not in the middle, only go deep enough that you have to milk a drop,starting at the base of your finger, you don't want to just bleed
you will test more in the first month and when meal testing, i use 25 a month now, have a reason to test and not just curiosity
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Thanks for the replies, yes I have my NDSS number but not the card yet, should be in the mail soon

I'll try setting #1 in the meantime and work up from there- will try the sides, great tip (pardon the pun!)

My Fiance is being strange because I also had high white blood cell count when my bloods came back, the Dr said perhaps due to an infection. However I do get eczema which is taking a long time to clear up due to not being well
 
Hi all - first post here!

Its been almost two weeks since I have been diagnosed with Type 2. I kinda felt it was inevitable, with bad eating habits and being over weight, however my Fiance seems to want a second opinion.

My A1C reading was only borderline high (6.9), and I have been self monitoring for a day now, with levels around 6.7. to 9.9 (the 9.9 was about an hour after eating a sneaky couple of Twisties and I was expecting it)

Last night I had mushrooms on grain toast for dinner and my reading 1 3/4 hours afterwards was 6.9
This morning my levels were 6.7

I am scheduled to have an educator visit in the next few weeks (we are in Australia) and 4 dietician appointments, but how can I get my Fiance to be more supportive and trying to deny the diagnosis

Could our doctor be wrong?

Also, any tips on how to make the blood taking process a little less painful (I have Accu Chek Nano and the lancets are killing my fingers - its set on 2) I have an Office job and my fingers are so painful!

Welcome from another Aussie :)

There'll be replies to your questions but let me deal with the last sentence. First check those lancet settings. Second thing is do NOT prick the top of your fingers but gravitate toward the sides away from the less nerve sensitive areas and alternate on both sides of the fingers and across both hands if you can manage that.

Good luck.
 
You have blood glucose levels in the diabetic range:depressed:, but not super high, so maybe you've caught it early, which is great news if you want to reverse it through diet, weight loss, and exercise. Take this as a wake up call to change your lifestyle. :shifty: And welcome to the club! I have no idea how to get your partner out of denial. Maybe have him come along when you see your doctor and let him ask questions? Maybe tell him that regardless if you have it or not you need his support to live in a more healthy manner?:bored:
 
Hi and Welcome from a Brisbane girl!

I was diagnosed September 10th. Sides of the fingers is the go, it is away from the nerve endings. Your eczema can definitely lift you white blood cell counts, as can a mild infection. Mine were slightly elevated when I was diagnosed, but I had a yeast infection under the arm of all places.

From a diet perspective I am doing LCHF which seems to work for me. A lot of people on here do this and get great results, there are some good sites like diet doctor that have lots of information.
 
I'm also new to forums and posting things, but did you introduce yourself in the correct forums as there is a few people here will give you some immediate info to help you.
Good luck

Hi Yashak and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information, which @daddys1 mentioned, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. An HBa1c of 6.9% is definitely diabetic. The target is to be down to near 6.0% and anything over 7.5% needs serious attention. The HBa1c test is reliable and the best test for diabetes. Yes, getting a bit of weight off should help with the sugar. If not yet on Metformin you probably should be so discuss with the doc. Yes, lancets can be painful and I haven't yet found a way round that; sorry. The good news is that if you should ever need to go onto insulin it is usually painless.
 
Hi and welcome.

Everyone above is correct. Your HbA1c puts you in the diabetic range.

5.9% or under is non-diabetic
6% to 6.5% is pre-diabetic
Over that is diabetic.

Keep reading this forum, reduce the carbs, cut out sugar, and come back with any questions. Good luck.
 
Thanks for the replies, yes I have my NDSS number but not the card yet, should be in the mail soon

I'll try setting #1 in the meantime and work up from there- will try the sides, great tip (pardon the pun!)

My Fiance is being strange because I also had high white blood cell count when my bloods came back, the Dr said perhaps due to an infection. However I do get eczema which is taking a long time to clear up due to not being well

Newly diagnosed 10 days ago. My white blood cell count was also raised so I was retested and it has come back as "no further action" which I took to be good news.

I am the third person in my office (of 25 people) to be diagnosed in the last 6 months - I'd swear it was catching!
 
I use the Accu-chek Nano and find I have to have the lancet on 3
 
Don't prick the tips of your fingers, prick the sides, but not too close to the nail. There are fewer nerve endings there so you should feel less pain. Also, I was also advised not to prick my index finger as it's the one you use most of all.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has problems -it took me three attempts this morning I have the same issues giving blood and they often take 3-4 attempts in both arms.
 
I think you need to make sure the lancet is pressed firmly against the finger then you can use a lower setting, otherwise |I find it tends to bounce rather than pierce. I know when I haven't pressed it firmly against the finger then iI don't get the result I want.
 
My psychiatrist told me I'm going crazy. I told him, "If you don't mind, I'd like a second opinion." He said, "All right. You're ugly too!"

source: http://www.jokes4us.com/peoplejokes/comedianjokes/rodneydangerfieldjokes.html

Seriously, as others have said, with those figures a second opinion is unlikely to deny that you have diabetes.
HbA1c is a measure of your long term blood glucose level so is far more important in diagnosis than a single fasting blood test.
You are over 6.5% so are in diabetic territory.
 
Back
Top