Newly diagnosed t2 diabetes. So confused

Rina80

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Hi everyone. I'm Rina. I was diagnosed yesterday as having t2 diabetes. My last 2 blood tests showed my levels(?) At 49 - taken last month and 50. From blood test last week. It's knocked he for 6. I have no idea what those levels mean. How worried I should be. Or what to do next. Im booked into see the diabetic nurse next Tuesday but I'm so stressed out about it and got so many questions. I wondered if anyone can help.

I suffer with very low vit d. In my opinion my body for some reason is not absorbing vit d via the tablets they have put me on they have tried various doses and it just keeps dropping. It' currently at 20 which is very low. It has dropped as low as 12.

I have done a bit of research and was wondering if anyone knew if my low vit d levels could be the reason for my diabeties? From what I have read vit d is needed to break down sugars in the body and if it's low it can't do that so could be the reason why I have it.

Any thoughts/opinions/advice gratefully received and appreciated. I'm currently feeling so overwhelmed and upset by it all.

Many Thanks in advance.
 
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Welcome @Rina80 to the Forum :). Tagging @daisy1 for the useful information for New Members to the Forum. Have a good read and ask your questions.
 

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@Rina80

Hello Rina and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

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Hello @Rina80, welcome to the forum. Feeling anxious and confused is pretty normal for most people at first, but there's plenty of information and advice to be found here, that hopefully will help to dispel those feelings fairly soon. The numbers you quote are not too bad, 49 and 50 are only just into the diabetic start point (which can be arbitrary anyway, between different countries). In UK these are:
below 42 - normal
between 42-47: prediabetic
48 and above: diabetic

Take a look at the main DCUK site here: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

With a little careful work, and some changes to diet, it may not bee too long before you are able to bring your numbers back down within the pre-diabetic, or non-diabetic ranges.

Can't help about the vit d influences on you, but someone with better knowledge than me will come along who may be able to advise.
 

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Hi everyone. I'm Rina. I was diagnosed yesterday as having t2 diabetes. My last 2 blood tests showed my levels(?) At 49 - taken last month and 50. From blood test last week. It's knocked he for 6. I have no idea what those levels mean. How worried I should be. Or what to do next. Im booked into see the diabetic nurse next Tuesday but I'm so stressed out about it and got so many questions. I wondered if anyone can help.

I suffer with very low vit d. In my opinion my body for some reason is not absorbing vit d via the tablets they have put me on they have tried various doses and it just keeps dropping. It' currently at 20 which is very low. It has dropped as low as 12.

I have done a bit of research and was wondering if anyone knew if my low vit d levels could be the reason for my diabeties? From what I have read vit d is needed to break down sugars in the body and if it's low it can't do that so could be the reason why I have it.

Any thoughts/opinions/advice gratefully received and appreciated. I'm currently feeling so overwhelmed and upset by it all.

Many Thanks in advance.

Hi Rina
You’ve come to the right place. This is type 2s best little corner of the internet. We’ve all been where you are now. I was diagnosed last May and with the advice from this forum I took up low carb eating and self monitoring to see what foods I could eat without elevating my blood sugars.
Your numbers of 49 and 50 sound like HbA1c results. HbA1c is a clever little test that can measure the excess sugar that’s stuck itself to your red blood cells over 2-3 months. Anything above 48 is diabetic so you’re only just into the diabetic range. I was 70 at the start!
With low carbing and self monitoring I got my HbA1c down below even the pre diabetic range of 42-48. I also lost five stone very easily which helps too. I don’t know if you have weight to lose too?
I’m sorry I don’t know anything about the Vitamin D aspect of your query except to say I take it on my Drs recommendation with Calcium to help my arthritis.
Please ask anything you like to clear your confusion, there’s always someone willing to help here x
 

Christina0308

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Hi Rina and welcome, my numbers were similar to yours, diagnose 50, 48, June lst last year. After joining this forum, was given lots of great advice and reading though lots of information I got my numbers down in three months to 37, I changed my diet/lifestyle to eating LCHF, real foods, which worked for me.
 
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Kittycat_7_

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Hi,
Welcome to the forum.
I have low vit D levels too, sorry don't know if can cause diabetes.
It is a shock, we're here to support you.
Your figures aren't too bad, try not to worry.
Take care
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

As the others have said, your HbA1c results of 49 and 50 are low in the diabetes range, so with some tweaks to your diet and careful monitoring with a home blood glucose meter you should be able to get this down to normal levels fairly quickly.

Apparently a vitamin D deficiency can lead to insensitivity to insulin, which may cause insulin resistance. This is a precursor to Type 2. But this doesn't happen in every case.

Have a good read round and ask a lot of questions.
 

lindijanice

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Hey Rina80, welcome to the Forum! About your Vit D issue, I believe there is a thread on here about this issue and Brunneria mentioned that Vit K2 is needed for our bodies to properly digest Vit D. (Not Vit K1 as that is what helps our blood to clot!) So it might be helpful to ask the Dr to run a blood test for that level, also it is Vit D3 that you should be taking....Blessings/L
 

CoastGirl

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Welcome @Rina80

If you are struggling with absorption of Vit D3 you may want to try a sublingual form rather than tablet. My levels were very low on diagnosis and I used a spray from a company called Better You and returned to optimal levels very quickly.