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Newly Diagnosed - trying to process the news

MrsA2 said:
Yes it is! :)

It's a good sign that your body is starting to work the way it should by using the stored fat as fuel rather than demanding new fuel even though your tank(body) is already full.
It also makes it much easier to plan meals as they get smaller and simpler
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Dear @MrsA2,

Thank you for your message. That's so good to hear. Yes, It definitely is easy to plan meals, as I am tending more toward one meal a day. I just have to convince my mother who is super worried about this. You know mothers - they care a lot about their child's health and well-being. Thank you for clearing my doubt :)
 
Hello Everyone,

I came across this talk by Dr. Neal Barnard at Google (The Power of Nutrition for Health). There, he is supporting the idea of plant-based diet with no animal products and oils. What are your views on the topic? I am a vegetarian already, so his diet is not that difficult for me to follow, but it is certainly going to be challenging to give up yogurt and cottage cheese as well.

I look forward to your views on the matter. Thank you :)
 
I was diagnosed Diabetes 2 two years ago, but started Metformin 500 mg 3 month ago. I lost 10 kg-s. Now my weight is 68 kg and my height is 185 cm, so I tend to be underweight. I am holding 180 g carbohydrate diet. I bought a beuer scale and I try to use excell to calculate the nutritients intake. On one worksheet are the carbohydrate number from the labels on the other the products by date and breakfast, lunch, teatime and dinner with weight. On the forum and my doctor advised me to swim but I ran until I had a small accident, now I am swimming as well and running less. I am doing Taoist Tai Chi twice a week. I was sleeping for years not well so it is a problem. And I reduced my reading, pc and tv time as well. I am playing piano and somebody told me about Feldenkrais method, but if you are doing sport it increases insulin resistancy just when you are taking effort if you are doing it slow or normal pace it wont help. But Stress is a factor as well.
 
Hello Everyone,

I have a question: Is it okay to consume sodium benzoate as part of a medicine?

Thank you so much for all the help. I look forward to hearing from you :)
 
Dear @valann, @Debandez, and everyone else,

I bought a blood glucose monitor Dr. Morepen BG-03, and have thus far just checked my fasting blood sugar. I was told by the shopkeeper that it would show the readings in the range of +-10. So, as a novice, I took 3 readings, and they came out to be: 1. 93, 2. 85, and 3. 83 (mg/dl). If the readings are correct, my FBS came down from 150 to let's say 87 (avg.). However, my mother checked it as well, and there was quite a difference among her readings. So, I am doubting a bit if the meter is correct. I did buy this one after checking out the mostly positive reviews.

Do you people have any suggestions on which meter I should go with in case I decide to ditch this one? I am a bit confused. Thank you for all the help.
 
Definitely a great result re the FBS.

I personally don't think you need to invest in another meter.

All glucose meters have to meet an accuracy of +/- 15%.

I have bought 3 meters over the years (mainly to lend to others) and did an experiment once comparing them all. Rarely got the same result from the same blood sample.

I wouldn't get too caught up in the numbers and just look for trends to be honest. Your testing will be giving you some useful insights irrespective of accuracy.

Testing before you eat and 2 hours after will give you a good indication of the foods to avoid.
 
Debandez said:
Definitely a great result re the FBS.

I personally don't think you need to invest in another meter.

All glucose meters have to meet an accuracy of +/- 15%.

I have bought 3 meters over the years (mainly to lend to others) and did an experiment once comparing them all. Rarely got the same result from the same blood sample.

I wouldn't get too caught up in the numbers and just look for trends to be honest. Your testing will be giving you some useful insights irrespective of accuracy.

Testing before you eat and 2 hours after will give you a good indication of the foods to avoid.
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Dear @Debandez,

Thank you for a quick response. Alright, that's a relief, as I was a bit worried about the fluctuations. For the FBS, I am taking the average reading of 87. I also did the glucose PP test. I did two to be sure and the results were: 115 and 120 (mg/dl). I have also lost quite a bit of weight: 7 Kg to be precise. I am happy with the results, seems that my efforts are working. Thank you so much for your continued help and support.
 
krishk said:
Dear @valann, @Debandez, and everyone else,

I bought a blood glucose monitor Dr. Morepen BG-03, and have thus far just checked my fasting blood sugar. I was told by the shopkeeper that it would show the readings in the range of +-10. So, as a novice, I took 3 readings, and they came out to be: 1. 93, 2. 85, and 3. 83 (mg/dl). If the readings are correct, my FBS came down from 150 to let's say 87 (avg.). However, my mother checked it as well, and there was quite a difference among her readings. So, I am doubting a bit if the meter is correct. I did buy this one after checking out the mostly positive reviews.

Do you people have any suggestions on which meter I should go with in case I decide to ditch this one? I am a bit confused. Thank you for all the help.
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I also personally don't think you need to change meters krishk, yes meters do often give slightly different readings as do different fingers when you test But it will still give you a good idea of what spikes you when eating as Debandez has said.

Test just before eating and then 2 hours after the first bite, it takes a little getting used to to look at the time for the first bite but you do soon get used to it.

Well done on the weight loss another positive for you ;)
 
valann said:
I also personally don't think you need to change meters krishk, yes meters do often give slightly different readings as do different fingers when you test But it will still give you a good idea of what spikes you when eating as Debandez has said.

Test just before eating and then 2 hours after the first bite, it takes a little getting used to to look at the time for the first bite but you do soon get used to it.

Well done on the weight loss another positive for you ;)
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Dear @valann,

Thank you for your message. Yes, I am well informed on that now. Thank you for telling me; I thought the 2 hours start after you finish. Moving forward, I will time it as per your instructions.

Thank you so much! It is all thanks to you people for guiding me. Otherwise, I will feeling a bit dejected at first.
 

Hi again krishk,​


I am really pleased to hear that you are now feeling more positive and not dejected now :)

Yes this forum and the people here are a great support and we all need support don't we, no one gets the diagnosis of Diabetes of any kind and feels positive straight away, we all have to learn to live with it and try to make it better. :)

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valann said:

Hi again krishk,​


I am really pleased to hear that you are now feeling more positive and not dejected now :)

Yes this forum and the people here are a great support and we all need support don't we, no one gets the diagnosis of Diabetes of any kind and feels positive straight away, we all have to learn to live with it and try to make it better. :)

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Dear @valann,

Thank you! Yes, I am in a much better place now and taking things positively.

You're absolutely right. It was a blessing that I ended up here and people gave me their time and attention to resolve my queries. Thanks again!
 
krishk said:
Dear @Debandez,

Thank you for a quick response. Alright, that's a relief, as I was a bit worried about the fluctuations. For the FBS, I am taking the average reading of 87. I also did the glucose PP test. I did two to be sure and the results were: 115 and 120 (mg/dl). I have also lost quite a bit of weight: 7 Kg to be precise. I am happy with the results, seems that my efforts are working. Thank you so much for your continued help and support.
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Brilliant news and you're very welcome.
 
Dear @all,

First of all, thank you for all the help thus far. On this journey of mine, I am learning new things every day and checking my sensitivity to fruits every day. Today, I came across a video from Dr. Jason Fung, where he talks about how fructose is bad for us and that we should avoid fruits (at least that's what I gathered). After eating fruits - apple, orange, papaya, pomegranate, kiwi, and cantaloupe (a combination of these in limited quantities) - for my breakfast along with almonds and walnuts, I checked my glucose levels and they came out to be normal ~120.

I also have a fatty liver and in that video, he also explained that fructose is processed by the liver and too much fructose can have liver implications (again my understanding of it).

Now, my questions to you all are: Do you take fruits? Do you recommend taking them? I can't have any kind of berries, as they are out of season here in my area. If you do recommend fruits, which ones do you recommend?

Sorry for all the gibberish that I have written above. I just want to deal with this perfectly and can't afford to be wrong. I await your response. Thank you all for reading through. Have a nice day/evening!
 
krishk said:
Dear @all,

First of all, thank you for all the help thus far. On this journey of mine, I am learning new things every day and checking my sensitivity to fruits every day. Today, I came across a video from Dr. Jason Fung, where he talks about how fructose is bad for us and that we should avoid fruits (at least that's what I gathered). After eating fruits - apple, orange, papaya, pomegranate, kiwi, and cantaloupe (a combination of these in limited quantities) - for my breakfast along with almonds and walnuts, I checked my glucose levels and they came out to be normal ~120.

I also have a fatty liver and in that video, he also explained that fructose is processed by the liver and too much fructose can have liver implications (again my understanding of it).

Now, my questions to you all are: Do you take fruits? Do you recommend taking them? I can't have any kind of berries, as they are out of season here in my area. If you do recommend fruits, which ones do you recommend?

Sorry for all the gibberish that I have written above. I just want to deal with this perfectly and can't afford to be wrong. I await your response. Thank you all for reading through. Have a nice day/evening!
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I have never really been a great lover of fruit to be honest. If I do have any it's usually strawberries or raspberries with full fat yoghurt, cream or low carb ice-cream. They don't tend to put up my bs. They aren't in season where you are, is frozen an option for you perhaps?

I did a couple of experiments at the beginning of my journey and as a consequence call grapes sugar bombs and bananas sugar sticks! But everyone is different and you are doing the right thing by testing and noting your results.

Here's a couple of links you might find useful. Diet Doctor has great infographs and this is the link to carbs in fruit and Dr Eric Berg's short videos I have found really informative. Love his white board.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits#fruits

 
I like fruit.... but had too way much in the past.

Now only have small amounts, occasionally. For me critical thing is the amount of carbs I have (eg, if having apple, (rare) ) which is about 12g of carbs, per 100g, would have a small piece so only having about 4 to 5 g of net carbs.
Whereas strawberries have about 6g of carbs per 100g, etc

Glycaemic Index or Glycaemic load seems to have little effect on me (as a T2, not a T1) but we are all different.

People used to eat fruit only in season.

I'm enjoying (a few ) wild blackberries and rhubarb (stewed, no sugar) from our garden.
But the plums, greengages and apples we have are a temptation!
 
Debandez said:
I have never really been a great lover of fruit to be honest. If I do have any it's usually strawberries or raspberries with full fat yoghurt, cream or low carb ice-cream. They don't tend to put up my bs. They aren't in season where you are, is frozen an option for you perhaps?

I did a couple of experiments at the beginning of my journey and as a consequence call grapes sugar bombs and bananas sugar sticks! But everyone is different and you are doing the right thing by testing and noting your results.

Here's a couple of links you might find useful. Diet Doctor has great infographs and this is the link to carbs in fruit and Dr Eric Berg's short videos I have found really informative. Love his white board.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits#fruits

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The video is informative, but a little misleading. I've only skimmed the first part.

Eg, for some of the fruit he is (at best) giving values for the fruit, not per 100g or cup size, whereas for the Berries it looks like (net) Carbs in g per 100g.
- Example: The (net) carb loading of Apples is around 10 to 12g per 100g from all the reputable sources I can find, such as USDA, not 23, which would be the amount in large apple. Apple are classified as a low GL fruit.
As far as I can see from a quick search, GI and hence GL loads for raspberries and most fruit are just estimates (see https://glycemicindex.com/) and not based on measurements.
Blueberries (which have 9 to 12 g Carbs per 100g according to different sources and food labels) are packed with sugar, 10g per 100g according to the USDA, roughly 50% glucose and fructose. But "sugars" are not mentioned for "berries".
 
I had to give up fruit - which I used to love - completely. I do feel a bit sad about that, but there are such a lot of other foods I can eat end enjoy while keeping my BG in check, so I just have to accept that those days are over. It's different for all of us, so I would suggest you cut out all fruit for a short time (a week - two weeks?) then with the help of your meter, try a small amount of one fruit and see where your readings take you.
 
krishk said:
Dear @all,

First of all, thank you for all the help thus far. On this journey of mine, I am learning new things every day and checking my sensitivity to fruits every day. Today, I came across a video from Dr. Jason Fung, where he talks about how fructose is bad for us and that we should avoid fruits (at least that's what I gathered). After eating fruits - apple, orange, papaya, pomegranate, kiwi, and cantaloupe (a combination of these in limited quantities) - for my breakfast along with almonds and walnuts, I checked my glucose levels and they came out to be normal ~120.

I also have a fatty liver and in that video, he also explained that fructose is processed by the liver and too much fructose can have liver implications (again my understanding of it).

Now, my questions to you all are: Do you take fruits? Do you recommend taking them? I can't have any kind of berries, as they are out of season here in my area. If you do recommend fruits, which ones do you recommend?

Sorry for all the gibberish that I have written above. I just want to deal with this perfectly and can't afford to be wrong. I await your response. Thank you all for reading through. Have a nice day/evening!
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Hi krishk,

I love fruit, all fruit and now have had to reduce it big time from my diet sadly, just reading your list of fruit you had for breakfast really did make me drool with envy..... But I know if I had them my BG would be sky high. I now limit myself to maybe a few blueberries or raspberries with yoghurt, if my BG is fairly low then I am lucky enough to be able to have a small or half a bigger apple but I have to peel it as the skin does put the BG up for me. We are all different in what we can eat and what we can't as well as how much. So I would also advise maybe going without fruit for a few days then introduce one at a time, testing before and 2 hours after each one, that way you will learn which affects your BG and which is not so bad or can be tolerated.

Diabetes really is a big (huge) learning curve for most of us and it takes time to figure out what is safe and what isn't, hard work but so worth it to get those numbers down.

Just so you know, no one thinks you write or speak "gibberish" all your questions have been valid and in most cases those we asked ourselves, if we don't ask, we don't learn ;)
 
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