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Newly diagnosed. Type 2.

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Hi, I hope that someone can help. So far I've had a less than helpful experience with my GP. I think I upset him by taking the NHS test online and then turning up in his surgery. Anyway, I have been diagnosed as having diabetes, but it wasn't until today the practice nurse told me I had type 2 and that I would need other referrals. I asked about diet as I am very over weight, but she said just go to weightwatchers or slimming world. I asked about carbohydrates as I know the amount you eat is important (sorry I am rather uninformed), but she just said that I needed to eat some every day. My question is... does anyone have a diet to lower weight that is low carb? Or any advice about how much carb I should be having a day? Thanks in advance
 
Hi @rosemarie-annebridgman , welcome to the forums.

You may feel uninformed but let me assure you that being aware of the relationship between blood glucose levels and carbohydrates puts you at an advantage over many diabetics posting here for the first time.

I'll ask @daisy1 to send you some information but in the meantime we have whole forums about diets and Low Carb High Fat diets if that's the way you want to go. So have a good look around and read as much as you can.

If you can, get your own blood glucose test meter and test your levels before and after meals to see what effect different foods are having on you (we're all different). Then you can start to assess just how much carbohydrate your body can cope with.

Good luck going forward, ask about anything that concerns you.
 
Hi, I hope that someone can help. So far I've had a less than helpful experience with my GP. I think I upset him by taking the NHS test online and then turning up in his surgery. Anyway, I have been diagnosed as having diabetes, but it wasn't until today the practice nurse told me I had type 2 and that I would need other referrals. I asked about diet as I am very over weight, but she said just go to weightwatchers or slimming world. I asked about carbohydrates as I know the amount you eat is important (sorry I am rather uninformed), but she just said that I needed to eat some every day. My question is... does anyone have a diet to lower weight that is low carb? Or any advice about how much carb I should be having a day? Thanks in advance
Hi Rosemarie, that is very unprofessional of your practice DR and Nurse. Other referrals probably means the eye retina test etc. Have you been put on medication yet I am still getting used to it myself but there are many willing helpers here that can help you on your feet.
 
Hi and welcome. As a rough guide for starters, keep your carbs below, say, 150gm/day and a lot less if you can do it. Once you have your meter you can check levels and the effect of various levels of food. Don't bother with either SW or WW as these organisations are in it for profit (not a problem) but it means they try to be all things to all people and can advise too many carbs. Obviously portion size has an effect. For info you don't actually need any carbs as you can get the glucose you need from other foods, but having some avoids burning fat and you need fibre etc.
 
For info you don't actually need any carbs as you can get the glucose you need from other foods

This is a little confusing and possibly misleading @Daibell, what exactly do you mean by this?

Everything else I fully agree with though:) Especially wrt to WW and SW.

Grant
 
This is a little confusing and possibly misleading @Daibell, what exactly do you mean by this?

Everything else I fully agree with though:) Especially wrt to WW and SW.

Grant
My understanding is that you can live without any carbs as the body can derive glucose from proteins and fat. The intuits do this. It is often said that the brain needs 130gm of carb per day therefore you need to eat that amount as a minimum but in practice the body can derive it. This is really a side issue and I'm not suggesting zero carbs but just making the point that carbs are not as important for us as is often suggested by the 'experts'.
 
@rosemarie-annebridgman

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. In particular there is much about carbs and the link to the Low Carb Program. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
A lot of doctors now are referring overweight patients to Slimming World for I think 3 months and they do not have to pay the weekly fee obviously it they want to continue after that they have to pay. I know when my daughter went to SW there were some diabetics in her group
 
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