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Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi, I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic after 2 years of trying to get my Dr to agree with me that I am.
I had some blood tests done 2 months ago and was told they were ok, same as last time.
3 wks ago whilst at the Drs I asked himn to explain my latest results. He said normal is 42% anything between 42% and 47% they like to keep an eye on. When I asked him what mine was he said 54% !!! yet I was told they were ok, same as last time.
He asked me to have a glucose tolerance test 17th July, finger prick 8.9 1st blood 7.9 2nd blood 10.9
I was then asked to re-take them as the Dr thought I didn't understand the principle of fasting (!)
26th July, finger prick 7.4 1st blood 8.2 2nd blood 15.4 !!!
I have my 1st appointment with the practice nurse this friday and I have loads of questions to ask.
I have been reading the posts on here for a couple of years now and found it very usefull and informative.
I will let you all know how I get on.
Suzanne
 
Hi Suzanne and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Suzanne,

I think (I Hope!) the blood test you had is HbA1c. The non-diabetic range is about 20–40 mmol/mol so your 54 mmol/mol is high. A Type 2 should try to get theirs below 48 mmol/mol, the lower the better unless you are on insulin or other hypoglycaemic drugs. Some of us try to stay below 40.

Your fasting BG tests were bothe in the diabetic range, as was you second 2 hour BG. It sounds like you have been diagnosed early so you can do a lot to get your BG under control yourself.

Ellis
 
Hi. Yes, 54mmol is too high. It's not seriously high but the GP should be aiming to keep you where he said i.e. between 42 and 47 mmol. If you have been reading the posts on the forum you may already be trying to control your carbs. If not, then follow Daisy's guidance and links. Your nurse should start you on Metformin which helps get any insulin resistance down a bit if you are slightly overweight. Do get hold of a meter if you haven't got one as it's an essential aspect of managing the condition. Good luck with the nurse and do ask any further questions.
 
Hi Daibell, Thanks for the comments. I'm having my 1st appointment with the nurse in just over an hours time. I have my notebook and a list of questions as long as my arm :D
Unfortunately I'm slightly more than 'a bit overweight'
I had an accident on 1st May 2013, I tripped up the kerb whilst walking out 2 rescue westies and damaged 2 of my vertibrae. I had 2 spinal injections on 2nd Jan this year and then physio each week form April till 2 weeks ago. My physio has decided he's causing more harm than good and has advised me to go back to consultant and request more injections :?
Has a result of my fall I have GAINED 1 and 1/2 stone in a year and SHRUNK 1 and 1/2 inches in height. this has resulted in a massive increase in my BMI and it is now 45 !!!
I'm in a catch 22 as I can't exercise due to my back and also arthritis in my left knee and right hip.
Dr suggested walking (I walk the dogs 1/2 hour each night) swimming (did it once and nearly crippled my back, could hardly stand next day) and cycling (this I have yet to venture at trying) if anyone can suggest any exercise which I could attempt I would be very grateful.
I also have gynaecological problems (prolapse) and my consultant wants to see me on 2nd Jan weighing at LEAST 2 stone lighter before she will operate :(
I take 7 tablets each morning as it is... so what's a few more
All in all I have to admit.... I'm falling to bits !!!
Suzanne x
 
Suzanne,

Losing weight may well help you on many ways. Your doctor may be able to help you with some weight-loss drugs.

You really have to look at what and how much you eat. Try to aim for a 500 calorie deficit, since you cannot increase your exercise, that is likely to mean reducing the amount you eat to about 1500 calories. Bulk your food up with low calorie vegetables and remember that fruit can be quite calorie rich.

As you start to lose the weight, you'll find life and exercise become so much easier - your dogs might not know what's hit them!

HTH
 
Hi Suzanne. I hope the appointment went OK. I wonder whether any steroids are included in your injections or tablets (e.g. Prednisolone or similar)? If so, these can cause excessive weight gain and higher blood sugars. Yes, diet is the main way you can get the weight and sugars down. Try to keep below 100gm/carb per day initially or at least 150gm. Metformin would help with insulin resistance and also reduces your appetite which helps. If you are on steroids see if the consultant is prepared to reduce them subject to your overall medical needs and it's not for me to comment on them anyway.
 
Hi, The appointment went well. My nurse checked my BP which was 130/80 just slightly higher than normal for me (it's usually 125/75) and she checked my feet. She has given me a monitor, strips, lances and a prescription for 3 more boxes of each (not the monitor though :D ) She said not to start any medication until she sees my readings over the next 2 weeks. I have another appointment in 2 weeks time when I will have an ECG and HBA1C and the chance to ask more questions.
She told me to have a play with the monitor and get used to it. (this was just as well as I couldn't get a reading the 1st time I had a go and wasted a strip) Before my tea it was 6.8 and 2hrs later it was 12.7 (so I guess I won't be eating that again !)
She has told me to eat and drink as I have been doing and to keep a record of what I've eaten. Also to test my blood b4 and 2hrs after each meal. She will then look at the results.
I've decided to start this on Monday, as I need to have 2 strips left for breakfast before I can collect my prescription and I don't have enough to record saturday/sunday. I haven't figured out how to set the date and time yet either !!
I will be spending all saturday night and sunday reading all the literature she gave me.
None of my other meds are steroids, I have Vesicare 10mg, Mebervine 135mg, Lansoprazole 30mg, Flucloxacillin 500mg and good old Paracetamol 500mg (which aint doing a **** thing as a pain relief)
Right.... time for me to go mow the lawn.... it's about the only exercise I can do besides walking the dogs :thumbup:
 
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