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George1981

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Hi, I was diagnosed about 3 weeks ago with my hbc1a coming in at 49. I have polycystic ovaries.

My question is my nurse can’t see me until 13th may and I was wondering if I would need medicine? She has booked me in for a one hour appointment to discuss my diet but I was just wondering if I she will give me medicine too?

Many thanks Georgina
 
You are only just diabetic - if you start eating fewer carbs you might drop down below diabetic level very quickly - that is 48.
On the 'ordinary' low carb forum I frequent over the years we have had quite a few OMG I'm pregnant!! postings - and my sister fell pregnant after coming to stay with us, so do be aware that low carb can have a very rapid effect.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Your nurse may prescribe Metformin but equally s/he may not as you are imo borderline Pre Diabetes / Type 2 Diabetes. To improve your HbA1c I suggest you lower your intake of carbohydrates and as @Resurgam has said, this can have a beneficial affect on PCOS.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
 
My usual info post for newly diagnosed

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Can I suggest you take a good look at low carb high fat methods of eating (keto is just an even lower version of this). It helps many of us lose significant amounts of weight, if desired, keep our numbers down and for some even eliminate medications and achieve remission and reduce or improve complications. It can help with other conditions like Pcos and high blood pressure too. Try clicking these links for more detailed explanations that are well worth readings


https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/ for info including low carb made simple


And https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/ to show it really works and for motivation


and https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/ for food ideas


also https://www.dietdoctor.com/ for more food ideas and general info of carb content of foods. Lots of other websites for recipes out there too. Just use the term low carb or keto with whatever you fancy.


Also it’s very important to be able to check for yourself what’s happening so you can make the necessary adjustments day to day and meal by meal rather than wait 3,6 or even 12 months and then have no idea what had what effect. Getting a blood glucose meter is the only way to do this (no matter what contradictory advice you may have heard - it’s usually budget based rather than anything more scientific). Please ask if you want any guidance on this.



IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE ON MEDS CONSIDERING LOWERING CARBS: if you lower your carbs then any glucose lowering meds may need to be adjusted accordingly to make sure you aren’t taking more than your new diet requires. It can cause a hypo if you have more gliclazide or insulin etc (this is not relevant for metformin on its own) than your new carb intake requires. Keep a close eye on your numbers and ideally do this with your dr. Please don’t be put off by an ill informed out dated rubbishing of low carb diets or being told you should eat carbs to match meds, it should be the other way around.
 
@George1981
Hello Georgina and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 300,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi, I was diagnosed about 3 weeks ago with my hbc1a coming in at 49. I have polycystic ovaries.

My question is my nurse can’t see me until 13th may and I was wondering if I would need medicine? She has booked me in for a one hour appointment to discuss my diet but I was just wondering if I she will give me medicine too?

Many thanks Georgina

I wouldn't be worried about having to wait to see your nurse. With an HbA1c of only 49 you really don't need medication. You can reduce that level to normal all by yourself by reducing the amount of carbs you eat as well as all sugary stuff. It is unusual to be prescribed meds without giving you this opportunity for a period of time - normally 3 months. Metformin is the first line drug, but this only helps to a limited extent and you still need to reduce those carbs to see a result. It isn't a miracle cure by any means. Diet is the key. So don't worry about it.

Be aware that your nurse works for the NHS. The NHS still pushes what is known as the Eatwell Plate, and this requires carbs with every meal and low fat. This way of eating is not suitable for type 2 diabetics. You may be lucky - some NHS staff are catching on to better ways of handling T2's.

Have a good read round this forum, especially Daisy's post above, and see how we are all managing to keep tight control. Ask as many questions as you like.
 
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