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Biggins1960

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Hello all. i have just been diagnosed as a T2 i have been given Metformin and statins and told to drop off a urine sample for a check to be made on my kidneys. I was told that i should make an appointment with the doctor in twelve weeks time to have bloods taken. I was also told that the hospital will contact me to arrange an eye test. I was not told my levels and have not been given a blood test meter to check my bloods. Is this normal to recieve so little information. i was dignosed after visiting the doctor complaining of tiredness. i then had a fasting blood glucose test and it was from that my diagnosis was given. i have caommenced taking the metformin and statin and a friend who is T1 has checked my bloods for me and i am steady at about 5.7. I feel i need some help and advice so here i am. i await yur expertise. Biggins1960 :D
 
Hi,

Welcome to the forum from someone who was a newby two weeks ago.

An expert will be along in a bit and will give you some good startup advice, but let me assure you that you've done the right thing by joining the forum.

The more you know about this condition, the better the results will be, short and long term.

There's a lot to learn so have a look about on the forum (and elsewhere too, if possible) and keep an open mind.
 
Hi Biggins and welcome to the forum :) It is unfortunately quite frequent to receive so little information on diagnosis, which is why you have done a very wise thing joining this forum. Perhaps you can phone to get your levels. Did you ask if they would give you a meter and strips? Testing is very important to see what you can eat - by checking before and 2 hours after meals. If they won't give you a test kit - which is also quite frequent - you can often get a free or reduced price meter from the publicity on this website. Failing that, if you phone manufacturers, they will often send you a free one as they want you to use their strips as that's where the money is. For strips - in the information below is some advice "Tips for Strips" which provides arguments to use to try and get your HCP to give you a prescription. Failing that lots of members who can't get them prescribed use ebay.

Here is some information written by the former Monitors for new members which I think you will find very useful. Ask as many questions as you like - someone will know the answer.

Here is the advice that Ken and I, as Forum Monitors, usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002#p173253

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2011 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091



Sue/Ken.
 
Hi Biggins,

I was diagnosed a few weeks ago, and like you was given no help or advice from the diabetic nurse. I felt realy down at the time. I found this forum and now feal realy possitive. The encouregment from the members is a great help.
I was not given a meter but got mine free from Bayer. The strips are expensive but I have got some great deals on ebay mainly from America.
Welcome to the forum and good luck.. :)

Keith
 
Hi

I think your GP is following a fairly typical process. After the 12 weeks the GP will probably ask for an HBA1c test on a blood sample which will show the average blood sugar level over the previous 10 weeks. GPs tend to prefer the HBA1c test rather than spot meter measurements for Type 2s. On the forum here we see the value in both. The HBA1c does give a useful average measure but the meter can help you decide what affects your BS and what foods are good and bad; in particular which carbs affect you most. You are lucky you had a glucose test at diagnosis which is a good start. My diabetes specialst GP dipped a urine stick in my sample and said 'yeah, you've got diabetes', gave me some diet sheets and said come back in 3 months!
 
A Pharmasist was the one that suggested I went to the doc & got tested for Diabetes as I kept getting Thrush! I was tested & they said my blood was 14.8 (I'm guessing thats too high). I have now been on a 1000 cal a day diet for the last 6 days (4 more to go before they test again) to see if that brings the number down. I did ask for some guidance as to what to eat-any ideas from the forum would be appreciated-but was just told to buy a book & start counting calories! So far I'm hopeful that its doing some good as my symptoms seems to have lessened. Like you I feel as if I need more information but I'm trying to take it one step at a time & hope that I get some more when I see the doc next. I hope you get some more info with your next appointment, my advise would be to ''keep on knocking at the door until its opened!''
 
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