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Newly PreDiabetes, or maybe Type 2?

ckneppel

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Location
Northern California
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Carbs
Greetings from the foothills of the Sierra Nevada in California. I am 58, female, diagnosed as prediabetic, HbA1c - 37, Fasting BG - 6.0 at diagnosis. Regular GP said no worries, stop eating sweets, outside system doctor put me on metformin due to my Dad being diabetic and Mom approaching prediabetic (in their 80s) and said low carb-high protein, not just no sweets, says to test only 2 hrs after eating. No one who is truly diabetic takes me seriously because the numbers are still relatively 'good', but I have been taking the advice of eat to the meter and I have found large spikes within 1/2 hour of finishing a meal. For example, I wanted to see what a bowl of Raisin Bran and milk would do to me (I missed it as I have been having low-carb meals, so this was unusual) so, before meal BG was 5.0, then 1/2 hr - 9.5(!), 1 hr 7.3, 1-1/2 5.9, and at 2 hrs 4.5. My doc says that's a really good 2 hr number, but when I ask about the spike being bad, she says no good data exist for testing that soon after a meal. I have found data on the internet, that says otherwise. What do you folks think? Once I had a piece of a French baguette with a load of butter as a snack - serious YUM! - and it went into +11. My Dad has diabetic complications and I am very scared.
 
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welcome ckneppel :) I do understand why you take this serious... best of luck with it... I don´t think a seldome spike over 7 is dangerous... maybe even totally normal non-diabetic people get that ...before their insulin beats the sugar down..
 
Some people do have quick spikes.
Everybody metabolizes differently, some quick, some very slow!
It all depends on what you eat and how your body deals with it.

In my experience, what you are describing is natural.
You may be prediabetic, but if you can control your blood glucose levels you may never develop diabetes.

If I eat a carb laden meal, I spike very quickly and there are those that have what is known as 'dumping syndrome'! They use up their glucose within an hour and spike around twenty to thirty minutes.
 
I think you already know the answer. I personally would not eat anything that spiked me to 9 or 11 knowingly. You already know that low carb works and eat to your meter will tell you just how much carb restriction is right for you. Keep testing. For new or untested foods, test at first bite, 1 hour and 2 hours. Remember that no one else can tell you exactly what will work best for you, only give general guidelines. Good luck and welcome to the forum :)
 
@ckneppel

Hello and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @ckneppel
I would also like to know what is normal with spikes after a meal and what level of spikes at what time are dangerous, I have found it very difficult to find any serious studies on this, Perhaps others will have come across some.
 
Hi @ckneppel and welcome to the forum. Well done for being proactive and researching your pre-diabetes to avoid becoming diabetic. I wish I had done that.
You will get a lot of useful advice and support on here.
 
Hi welcome to the forum:)

I'm 58 too and prediabetic but diagnosed a good few years ago.
I took it very seriously as I have close family members with many complications.
I bought a meter and tested and ended up low carbing as it was carbs that increased my BG.
I went hard core low carb I was very strict, I had a normal BMI but lost weight which gave me a lower bmi (19.5)
Which I hope helps control. My hba1c's are a good normal now last 32 or 33 I think. But I am not cured I can tolerate more carbs but if I do Eat more I get a fasting reading in the 6's.

I now consider myself fortunate that I caught it really early and so have you and by maintaining normal levels and losing any excess weight you are giving yourself the best chance of avoiding complications.
 
Testing after 1/2 hour is no good, you will get high readings. 2 hours is best in my opinion, otherwise you are just scaring yourself! I don't think I would be as low as 4.5 2 hours after Raisin Bran! There is loads of advice on her for diets and recipes but essentially, eat healthily, stay away from carbs (especially rice, pasta, potatoes and cereals) and increase your exercise. Good luck :)
 
The whole point is to know what the spike is and avoid foods that spike too high. This is what eating to your meter is.
 
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