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No insulin despite of quite high blood sugar level

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My mother is type 2 diabetic. She is 64. Her blood sugar level is quite high (17 to 18 after meal and fasting sugar 10 to 11) for last 6 or 7 months. 3 months ago, Gp surgery Nurse suggests her to take insulin because she is already on too many tablets and she also asked my mum if she could manage her diet and exercise.This way her blood sugar level would be down. Means she doesn't have to go with insulin injection.

Unfortunately nothing's been changed after three months. She was asked to get her blood sugar checked in first week of February. I keep trying to book an appointment for her blood test but our gp has only one answer "we are fully booked".
I don't know what to do. There is diabetes centre here in city but without gp refferal...?
 
My mother is type 2 diabetic. She is 64. Her blood sugar level is quite high (17 to 18 after meal and fasting sugar 10 to 11) for last 6 or 7 months. 3 months ago, Gp surgery Nurse suggests her to take insulin because she is already on too many tablets and she also asked my mum if she could manage her diet and exercise.This way her blood sugar level would be down. Means she doesn't have to go with insulin injection.

Unfortunately nothing's been changed after three months. She was asked to get her blood sugar checked in first week of February. I keep trying to book an appointment for her blood test but our gp has only one answer "we are fully booked".
I don't know what to do. There is diabetes centre here in city but without gp refferal...?

Hi and welcome
First of all I will tag @daisy1 in who will then be able to send you some important and very useful info that you can share with your mum.
Are you in the UK?
Your mum's bloods are high and I presume she is on meds for her diabetes too. Is your mum prepared to change her diet at all? She could see a big drop in blood sugars almost instantly if she lowered her carb intake. Cutting out (or at least right back) on potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, cereals, juices, fruit apart from berries would be so beneficial for her health and well being.
 
How frustrating! Do not know your system, but I was referred to a specialist and offered an appointment 3 months in the future - told the receptionist that I would be travelling about that time, and would attend at short notice if there was an earlier cancellation. Got the appointment in less than one month. Can you book the next appointment at the time of each consultation? I have just had a hearing assessment, and have been given an appointment for next year - the audiologist will send me a reminder close to the date. Ask your diabetes centre for advice about the situation?
 
My mother is type 2 diabetic. She is 64. Her blood sugar level is quite high (17 to 18 after meal and fasting sugar 10 to 11) for last 6 or 7 months. 3 months ago, Gp surgery Nurse suggests her to take insulin because she is already on too many tablets and she also asked my mum if she could manage her diet and exercise.This way her blood sugar level would be down. Means she doesn't have to go with insulin injection.

Unfortunately nothing's been changed after three months. She was asked to get her blood sugar checked in first week of February. I keep trying to book an appointment for her blood test but our gp has only one answer "we are fully booked".
I don't know what to do. There is diabetes centre here in city but without gp refferal...?

If you are very concerned about you Mum, you could try calling your local Diabetes Centre and explaining you are struggling to get an appointment. They may be able to help, or give you a suggestion for the best way forward.

Good puck with it all.
 
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Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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