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No sleep as peeing every 10 minutes, please help!

robbyb

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My father has type 2 Diabeties and has had a prostate TURP operation to try and help him urinate more freely as he's regularly going and doesn't pass much urine.
He had the op a month ago and is still up every 10 to 15 minutes throughout the night. He's 79, getting very fragile emotionally and physically due to exhaustion and we're all very worried.
Apart from trying to get his sugar levels under control, has anyone got any tips/advice of how to help please?
Thank you in advance!
 
Hi Robby and welcome to the forum, it sounds to me like a review with his GP or surgeon is on order, does he have a follow up appt with the hospital? Of course getting his blood sugars under control may help too. Can you tell us what diet he eats and if he’s in any meds.
For diabetes info I’ll tag in @daisy1
 
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Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
His TURP will have disturbed muscles and nerves in his abdomen and he will have been catheterised following the operation. He needs to do pelvic floor exercise which will help after 6 - 8 weeks but in the interim he could have a condom type catheter which he or a carer could fit each night which would help with sleep. As has been said earlier he needs to see his GP or surgeon as soon as possible.
 
We are a bunch of amateurs who have diabetes. You can tell I am not going to be of much help. It sounds like he has the urge to pee rather than having a full bladder if he pees little and often. When I got the more frequent peeing requirement DN told me not to drink diuretics and to buy De-caf tea and coffee. It didn't help. I might hazard a guess that your man's op has more to do with his problem but as others have said, the man/woman to see is his GP.
 
This sounds like it has little to do with diabetes and more to do with his other ailments and should be directed at his GP, tbh
 
Hi Robby and welcome to the forum, it sounds to me like a review with his GP or surgeon is on order, does he have a follow up appt with the hospital? Of course getting his blood sugars under control may help too. Can you tell us what diet he eats and if he’s in any meds.
For diabetes info I’ll tag in @daisy1

Thank you all for your replies. Yes he's had follow up and multiple appointments with the surgeon, GP and Diabetic specialist. He now injects throughout the day as he needed to get the levels under control in order for this operation on his prostate to go ahead. His sleep has been very inconsistent for some time now and the only time he has had proper sleep is with a fitted cathetor post op. There are other issues which are all linked to do with kidneys etc. Not sure with regards diet but I know he's generally very good and eats well, doesn't indulge in sweet things unless required (levels too low).
With regards sleep it seems like surgeon is pointing finger towards diabetes and diabetic specialist is happy with his figures.
Apparently it takes a couple of months for recovery from the TURP op and his bladder needs to kick in to work again.
We're also wondering whether psychologically he's telling himself he need to get up regularly to avoid any accidents ?

Thank you all once again!
 
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