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Normal flour tortillas in the Al Paso packets

Riri

Riri

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Hia - tried 2 of these floor tortillas tonight with the suggested chicken, onion and pepper filling and the powder mix. Packet said 23 grams of carbs per wrap with filing. 2 hrs afterwards and my blood sugars are over 14!!! Have taken a correction and the pump is on a temp basal rate 140% for 2 hours - lets hope that does the trick. Does anyone else have trouble with flour tortillas?? I think I'll need to stay clear in future.
 
those wraps are deadly and yet they get pushed as being the healthy option...
 
Hi Riri!

Yes, I get exactly the same reaction with flour tortillas. Bread seems to be my worst thing unfortunately and the flour tortillas are no different than the equivalent amount of carbs in one and a half slices of bread - any colour, any type! I even spike with the Mama Lupas low-carb wraps. I've given up on bread!

Smidge
 
Riri said:
Hia - tried 2 of these floor tortillas tonight with the suggested chicken, onion and pepper filling and the powder mix. Packet said 23 grams of carbs per wrap with filing. 2 hrs afterwards and my blood sugars are over 14!!! Have taken a correction and the pump is on a temp basal rate 140% for 2 hours - lets hope that does the trick. Does anyone else have trouble with flour tortillas?? I think I'll need to stay clear in future.
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Not had the Al Paso tortilla wraps but 23g of carbs seems quite low, I had one from Waitrose earlier this year and the package said there's was 40-50g of carbs (I just forget) and it wasn't that large.

A spike of 14 is not great and maybe it's one food you need to avoid.
 
Hi Riri
I've found that the El Paso kits are worse than other makes.... but maybe biased as the ones sold here in France have partially hydrogenated fats in them.
I think they give an underestimate for the carbs. I would calculate them a bit higher.
Soft flour tortillas themselves contain 19.8 g each (the ones actually called soft flour tortilla wraps are 28!)
The mix contains 35g of 59% is carb; and most of that sugar. So there is 20g carb in the packet. An eight of this is 2.5g.

Therefore the tortilla contains 21.5g carbs before adding the peppers, onion, any salsa etc


I once joined in a virtual fajita testing night with other people with D.

This is what I ate:
2 Discovery tortillas, 40gcarb, red peppers 10 g carb, onions 6g carb , salad and salsa 5g carbs =61 g carb (I also had a few nibbles whilst cooking so added on 9g for those ) So for me it was a relatively high carb meal of 70g carb.
I calculated and bolused 5.7 up front.

Start 4mmol (well actually about 25 mins before, at the start of cooking)
1hour 9.1mmol
2hours 8.4mmol
4 hours 7 mmol bed
am 5.8mmol (I like to be a bit lower)

The overall results were very mixed. Some people, like you , were very high at 2 hours and had to correct to bring it down. Others seemed to have done as I did and had a sharp 1 hour spike (5.1mmol/l) followed by a slowish fall.
Surprisingly the one T2 had a very small rise.

Yes, there were a few problems but compared with some of the other 'difficult' foods,for most people it wasn't too bad. (Fish and Chips from a chip shop was much worse for many)

We quite often have fajitas when I visit my daughters. Since that experiment ,I either give a little bit more insulin than calculated ( I think a superbolus might be a good way of doing it, haven't tried) but more usually eat only 1.5 of the actual wraps for a meal Then I have no problems.
superbolus: http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes-tec ... uper-bolus

If i were you I would test again and see what happens at 1 hour. Then you can decide whether you can cope with it by changing the type of bolus or whether it's one of those foods that you have to eat less of/give up.
 
Riri said:
Hia - tried 2 of these floor tortillas tonight with the suggested chicken, onion and pepper filling and the powder mix. Packet said 23 grams of carbs per wrap with filing. 2 hrs afterwards and my blood sugars are over 14!!! Have taken a correction and the pump is on a temp basal rate 140% for 2 hours - lets hope that does the trick. Does anyone else have trouble with flour tortillas?? I think I'll need to stay clear in future.
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Hi Riri, just had a look on line and old el paso tortillas have 26g carbs per two tortilla serving but doesnt mention including the filling so I would suspect the seasoning mix, onion and peppers, not sure what they would add but would think it must make a difference insulin wise.

Of course being a T2 I dont have to count carbs to the extent that you do :D
 
Thanks all for replies. There are a few things for me to try here and I think I will go with the 1 tortilla option first and just have more chicken and salad on the side as a filler.

Interestingly, most of my suppers contain 50-60g of carbs every night and with new potatoes, oven chips, brown rice and burgen bread with either yogurt/cream and no sugar jelly cream or maybe even a couple of rich tea biscuits making up the carbohydrates I don't go high - normally 7-8 mark after 2 hours. My total daily carbs are around 100-120g per day who seems to work ok most of the time.

I do agree, that their estate of 23g of carbs per filled tortilla looks very low though.
 
Riri said:
I do agree, that their estate of 23g of carbs per filled tortilla looks very low though.
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I just wonder how they can say what the carb content is filled, without knowing what you will fill it with?
 
This is based on their packet recipie which is x grams of chicken (can't remember how much), 2 peppers and 1 onion with the Packet seasoning mix - and a dash of oil to fry chicken and veg. I guess the question is how much filling I put in but I thinks it's those damned tortillas that are doing most of the damage :roll:
 
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