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QUOTE="cocobee.2017, post: 1573432, member: 439637"]Hi everyone. I am in emotional tears from all the kindness you have shown, from one stranger to another. The low carb I tried was basically meat and veg, no fruit, no bread, nothing with flour in it, no potato, but I am addicted to carbs & I have a binge eating disorder. What a great combination of problems I have. I couldn't resist the occasional toast, pasta, sweet potatoes so it is not the diet that has failed me, it is me. I also have osteoarthritis in feet but I do enjoy walking outdoors & would love to do 10,000 steps a day if the pain wasn't so self limiting. I know, I sound like a bunch of excuses don't I. I will pick myself up again and read your advice and do whatever is advised from the people who know and that is you.[/QUOTE]
You are doing well so don't beat yourself up we all eat something we shouldn't sometimes we are only human. Your diet is good keep eating like that and you will loose weight but it takes time it will not happen overnight. Low carbs does work for weight loss as many here will tell you. Myself I did not need to loose any weight when I was diagnosed with diabetes I had always been very slim but when I lowered the carbs I lost weight I didn't need to. Keep up what you are doing with the low carbs and you will win in the end
 
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zand

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Hi Maria. Forgive me if someone else has already mentioned this, I don't have time to read the whole thread right now.

Do you drink enough water? If I don't drink 2-3 litres of water then I don't lose weight regardless of diet and exercise. That may be just me, but I thought I would mention it.

Oh and welcome to the forum :)
 

Japes

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I'd add - drinking enough water helps with blood sugars as well!
 

cocobee.2017

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Hello maria. I am glad you have found some help here. One thing I would suggest is getting your meter as soon as possible. As all the others have said controlling our blood sugar is the most important thing. The weight loss is good and it certainly helps but control is important. If you can, get it sooner rather than later.
Also have a strategy in place for when you start. I was amazed at " keto flu". Read jason fung and dietdoctor and google keto flu.
Have a look at supplements. Depending on how you decide to do this you might want vitamins etc.
Any other health problems? If so you might need to discuss this with your hcp.
Also let your nearest and dearest know that you might be a bit snappy for a few days. I will always be grateful to my husband for not beating me to death with a shovel.
Once you have read everything then pick a day and go for it. As I have already said wwhat worked for me might not work for you, but you will not know until you try.
Last thing. Make a note of all your measurements. Not just weight but waist line as well. This is an important indicator and I didnt do it at the start.

The binge eating is hard. Once we take that away how will we deal with a bad day? Its not easy and I have no answer. At the moment i stop myself eating by remembering I dont want to go blind. I am not sure how well that will work in the long term, but its ok for now.

Let us know when you intend to start and keep in touch. You can pm me if you like. X
Dear lady, thankyou again. I bought myself a meter yesterday & have started testing already. No surprise the pasta I had last night made blood sugars shoot up high. I now start a food list to know what I can & cannot eat. You have all inspired me. You did have the answer actually, about what stops you binge eating because you don't want to go blind. I am going to follow your fine example & be of the same mindset now when faced with temptation. I will be thinking I don't want to die, even though we all will one day, if I have the power to control my blood sugar levels, then I will do that at least. I tried to send u a pm but it wouldn't let me, I'm a newbie so perhaps I need to change my settings. Oh btw haha about the grumpiness, I am grateful for my patient & kind husband as well. Bless you.
 

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Initium est dimidium facti. Latin that is! I'm no Latin scholar - in fact I'm no type of scholar, but I came across this ditty years ago. It means 'to start is to be half done' or 'once you've started you're half way there'.
That's now you. How good to see a positive post - really well done.
 
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The only thing I’d like to add is try eating food you like diet doctor has some great recipes pick one you like the look of and give it a go. Shredded cabbage fried in butter a cream and tomato sauce with meatballs or some other meat is a good alternative to pasta.
 

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Dear lady, thankyou again. I bought myself a meter yesterday & have started testing already. No surprise the pasta I had last night made blood sugars shoot up high. I now start a food list to know what I can & cannot eat. You have all inspired me. You did have the answer actually, about what stops you binge eating because you don't want to go blind. I am going to follow your fine example & be of the same mindset now when faced with temptation. I will be thinking I don't want to die, even though we all will one day, if I have the power to control my blood sugar levels, then I will do that at least. I tried to send u a pm but it wouldn't let me, I'm a newbie so perhaps I need to change my settings. Oh btw haha about the grumpiness, I am grateful for my patient & kind husband as well. Bless you.

The eye sight saving works for me because I love reading. I also enjoy looking at the world, seeing my family and watching my grandchildren grow, but if I am perfectly honest its the thought of not being able to read a book that truly scares me. You must find your own motivation, but not wanting to go blind does it for me!!

When I first started this in june I only had the "stick" part of motivation to keep me going whenever I felt I needed to binge eat. Only the thought of blindness stopped me eating the contents of the baby snack cupboard at 2 in the morning. But now that I can see the immediate results of low carb eating I have found the carrot part as well. I just feel so much better.

And I can buy clothes in ordinary shops. I can keep up when I take the children to the park and the other day I took my grandson to a play barn. Its one of those places with lots of climbing frames, tunnels, big foam shapes, rope nets and obstacles. In other words, a complete nightmare. And I went on it with him. I could not have done that on june 28th this year, and now its the 1st October and I climbed all over that thing.

I have no idea how all of this will end, but I am starting to enjoy life again. And tbh its because of this forum . You have no need to thank me because I am only doing what the other members of this forum did for me. And in a little while you will do it for other newbies. Please keep in touch.
 

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I have just posted in the success stories. I was diagnosed in December, and initially thought I would really struggle. Then after a tip from a second doctor, I found Low Carb and this place. I'd started using my meter and saw first of all that I was basically allergic to breakfast cereals, and even some other supposedly healthy foods as my sugars would rocket. The fact that I have now found foods that I always wanted to eat but thought were bad, are actually good for my BG levels, its made it much easier. I'll be honest, I didn't struggle with keto flu but ditching carbs virtually overnight meant I pretty quickly lost the cravings. 10 months on I've lost 15kg, and got my A1c down from 90 to 37. The Dr allowed me to stop taking Gliclazide, but told me she'd be upset if I went back up and ruined her figures!

My point: I've done it, others have done it. You can do it too.
 
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To get taller children feed them something other than carbs as snacks.
Be warned though - my eldest is a foot taller than me. The eggs and cheese and sausages are to blame.
 

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Hi

My name is Maria & I am here because I feel like I've lost all hope. I am frustrated. I have tried EVERYTHING to try and lose weight. I am prediabetic, glucose impaired tolerance that makes it harder, if not impossible, for me to lose weight. My appetite is RAVENOUS because of the high blood sugars.

I have tried eating healthy, low carb, Weight Watchers, walking, gym, the dreaded diet, you name it & I've tried it.

I feel like giving up & just let this disease take over my body :( I don't know what else to do or try.

Sorry this message is really negative. If you've lost weight with diabetes & I need to lose a significant amount, 20kg or more, please tell me how you did it, thank you.


I've been trying low carb for the last 8 or 9 months. I've lost almost a stone or 7kg and it is slowly going down. I like the slow part because slow hopefully means that I will keep the weight off. My BG readings are mostly very good.

You mentioned low carb, that means very very little (don't have to cut it out completely) bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, and anything made with flour - biscuits, cakes, pastries, etc. It goes without saying that sweets and chocolate are out, though you can have a little dark chocolate (not Cadbury Bournville), I have a couple of squares most evenings. I allow myself something small occasionally, especially when exercising, for example I went for a walk this morning and took a snack with me which included 2 chocolate hob nob biscuits. Whilst on holiday and doing a lot of walking I might pinch just one finger of a Kit-Kat bar from my wife. It isn't easy, previously I would have taken a whole one, or had half a packet of biscuits, or a whole pack of Jaffa Cakes. Look for healthy snacks, I've tried carrots, fruit, nuts, and assorted veggies.

It seems that most 'berries' are good for you and I enjoy a small bowl with a drop (or 10) of fresh cream.

I've gone from 2 bowls of cereals in the morning to eggs, cheese, ham, tomatoes, cucumber, red pepper, etc. Some days I will have egg and bacon, occasionally a sausage too is ok. It takes time to adjust, and of course in the morning especially a little extra prep time.

We bought smaller plates and dishes, I know it sounds silly but it does help, we now don't fill the smaller plates! We also bought some electric kitchen scales to better measure portion sizes and I have to admit that my perception of a healthy portion was way way out when we compared it to the recommended portion sizes on the packet/can or in a recipe.

You didn't mention drinks? Alcohol probably doesn't help (I don't drink) but neither does fresh/bottled fruit juices, fizzy drinks, sugar free or otherwise, I've switched over to bottled water and now that I've got used to it I really don't miss the drinks I used to drink.

It takes time to build up a new healthy way of living/eating, I currently live in Germany and last week I found a new pizza base that has about 6gm of carbs for the whole thing. I was hesitant the first time I tried it and found it was ok, my BG level afterwards were pretty normal, so last night I had another one and really really enjoyed myself, and my BG readings at bedtime were perfect. Pizza really isn't a bad option, it is all about the toppings and the base. It is trial and error, just make sure that you keep trying.

I tried the gym, total waste of time and money. I enjoy walking and cycling so now I do at least 30 minutes a day and try to get it nearer to 60 minutes without making it seem like a chore. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to get on as we get into the cold wet dark nights, but I know I must try.

Look at product labels, it is normally the total amount of carbs that you should be looking at, low fat yogurts for example are high in total carbs.

I do wish you all the best, don't give up. I can't go into my story but suffice it to say that I just swallowed the tablets the Dr gave me and figured out it was all going to be ok, but it isn't ok. At the end of the day your health should be one of the most important things to you, family is important too, but if you're not well because of your diabetes you will not be good for your family, you need your health!

Sorry for the long answer, I hope I've said something that will help.
 

masonap

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You are lovely! Thank you so much for sharing your story with me. Thank you for taking the time & I did giggle as well, why not make a joke of this madness I have & that is binge eating disorder. Sometimes I'm in control but as u say, when stress comes around, food especially carbs is my only comfort. I will try your way for 1 week, it's only 1 week :) it's not going to kill me, T2 will though, as it did to my precious mum & brother from those complications you mentioned. Then after that I will get me a glucometer, notebook & start walking again. You & others in here have inspired me. I thank you again from the bottom of my heart x


Get a bike, it is easier on the feet and joints, you don't have to be doing 20mph in Lycra shorts, believe me... me in Lycra and the streets would be empty! Just cycle, enough to get you a bit warm, perhaps breathing a little heavier than normal and it will make a lot of difference.
 

masonap

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Dear lady, thankyou again. I bought myself a meter yesterday & have started testing already. No surprise the pasta I had last night made blood sugars shoot up high. I now start a food list to know what I can & cannot eat. You have all inspired me. You did have the answer actually, about what stops you binge eating because you don't want to go blind. I am going to follow your fine example & be of the same mindset now when faced with temptation. I will be thinking I don't want to die, even though we all will one day, if I have the power to control my blood sugar levels, then I will do that at least. I tried to send u a pm but it wouldn't let me, I'm a newbie so perhaps I need to change my settings. Oh btw haha about the grumpiness, I am grateful for my patient & kind husband as well. Bless you.


Take care of yourself and diabetes won't kill you!
 

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I'm afraid that one thing I found out in the first weeks after diagnosis was that eating something densely carb put back my progress significantly - I could see it on my meter.
If you sabotage progress by eating even a small amount of the foods to be avoided, it takes a significant amount of time to get back to where you were - so just one carby 'treat' a week could double the time taken to reach a particular milestone, and it turns off ketosis so no weightloss over that lost time too.
That is only what I found - but I do suspect that it will be the same for many. If you were diagnosed early and have a low Hba1c then you might not be too concerned about making rapid progress, but if you are seeing complications then a few biscuits or a couple of sandwiches on a regular basis could alter the outcome significantly, if my suspicions are correct.
Some small things such as staying hydrated might also help get things moving in the right direction. Having a drink of water first thing in the morning, with meals, and an hour or so before bed seems to help stay stable.
I need to eat my carbs later in the day, having only a small amount of carbs with my first meal and eating it mid morning rather than at lunch time showed a good influence.
With a meter you can try out various strategies and see if they make a difference to you.
 

cocobee.2017

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Thank you so much for your awesome story that has truly inspired me. Thank you for taking the time to send me your post. Thank you for your encouraging words of kindness, determination & HOPE, you have given me hope x
 

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I think I'm getting my replies mixed up. Sorry. Newbie. But I thank ALL OF YOU for sharing your stories with me & your advice, opinions & even your sense of humour that has made me giggle. I went to see my nurse today. I asked her about eating to my meter & she said "not necessary if you're prediabetic, only if you're already type 2". She said it was obsessive & inaccurate to a certain degree as it only measures daily & not over 3 months as with Hba1c. Then she gave me a booklet that recommended baked beans on toast for breakfast (which I love BTW) but last time I ate that, BS shot up to 15mmol (should be 4 to 8). So much conflicting information out there & so called health professionals. Who do we believe? I believe in you guys the most!
 
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Your meter will tell you what beans on toast will do to your levels. You know now that if you have it your bg will rise, without the meter you would never know what foods are spiking you and to depend on HbA1c then it would be nigh on impossible to pinpoint the foods that are best avoided. I would advise that you carry on testing as it does no harm and it is a great learning tool.