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Not quite 'Newly Diagnosed' but....

colinrim

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I was diagnosed over a year ago (type 2) and in my ignorance I thought that just cutting sweets and sugar etc would be enough....how wrong was I??

I have proabably been in denial that this diabetes will and is affecting much more than I realised.

Ignorance about carbs etc and maybe the benefit of testing has passed me by, the GP said I didnt need to test but having spoken to others and read the forums I think I may benefit from testing at least to find out what I can eat!

can any recommend a meter? There are lots to choose from and am bewildered as to which one to choose....

Hoping you can help me

Colin
 
Hi Colin and welcome to the forum :)

Many members choose the SD Codefree as the strips are cheaper if you have to pay for them. Here is the information we give to new members which should be useful to you. Ask all the questions you like as there is usually someone who can help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Colin :wave:

once you have your meter and start to test as shown in Daisy's post, you'll find out how different foods effect you. Lots of us have found that the only bread that we can tolerate is Burgen Soya and Linseed, even then only 1 or 2 slices. I don't eat any Pasta or Rice. The only potatoes that I eat are 1 or 2 small new potatoes or 1 roast potato cooked in either goose or duck fat. I can't tolerate any of these things otherwise, but I look upon it as they are the boring bits of a meal and doing without them means more of the good stuff!! Lots of us find cutting carbs and upping fats brings our numbers down, don't worry about asking questions, we love them!

Ann
 
Thanks Daisy and Ann, I have ordered the USB thingy from Bayer and am awaiting its delivery, hopefully this will help establish where I am going wrong!
Its going to be hard cos I do love those carbs!!

Colin
 
Hi Colin and welcome

I found giving up carbs was hard but once you get through the first few weeks then it just becomes your normal routine and I no longer worry about it and I've found far nicer things to eat. The knack in the first few weeks is to not get hungry and to not think of the changes as a diet but more along the lines of a long term lifestyle change. Reducing carbs for most people really means adopting the following as your "normal" routine. Give up sugar so sugar in tea, coffee, cakes, biscuits, non diet soft drinks and pure fruit juices. Next and really as importantly at least halve your starchy foods as they raise levels nearly as badly as sugar so that means rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, cereals and other flour based products. On what you keep swap to brown basmati rice, brown or tri color pasta and try Burgen Soya Bread that you can get from most supermarkets. Replace with eggs, cheese, meat, fish and especially green veg.
 
Thanks xyzzy!

I have just bought a meter with the intention of finding out which carbs are doing me the most damage!
Although my intention is to go to a low carb diet eventually.....

All these years and I have been ignorant of the effect that carbs has on me.

But I am so going to miss Bread!!!
 
colinrim said:
Thanks xyzzy!

I have just bought a meter with the intention of finding out which carbs are doing me the most damage!
Although my intention is to go to a low carb diet eventually.....

All these years and I have been ignorant of the effect that carbs has on me.

But I am so going to miss Bread!!!

yup... I miss the smell of fresh bread in the morning... but really enjoy being able to enjoy bacon & eggs knowing my sugars won't be affected...

breakfast these days is usually a 3 egg omelette with cheese and/or tomato or fried mushrooms or whatever other filling that's handy...

Forget wholemeal toast & marmalade with orange juice... a supposedly healthy breakfast... or weetabix or any other "healthy" cereal like all-bran or even porridge...

My meter shows me what they were doing to me...
 
Hi. As others have said you do gradually get used to the changes in your diet and you don't need to give up carbs; just change some of them and reduce overall intake. I now have a Low-GI loaf from the local basker as I don't like the Burgen bread. I cut the slices thin and only have two slices at a time. I still have porridge but only as part of home-made muesli and a small quantity. I try to have wholemeal or multi-grain bakery products where I do have a snack; for example Duchy Original wholemeal muffins and only a half! There are many ways of having low-GI carbs and spreading them out during the day. When you review your previous diet you will no doubt find many foods and drinks which had added sugar where an artificial sweetener does the same job or it wasn't needed anyway. Watch the sugar in baked beans, tinned soups, yoghurt and other 'low-fat, healthy' products. Good luck.
 
I had some carrots with my evening meal today... they really tasted sweet... :) no sugar was added at all to them... but they were so sweet...

Grilled pork loin chop, mashed celeriac with nutmeg, carrots and served with creamed spinach...

post meal reading of 5.8!!!
 
Thanks for all your replies!

Have been testing for a fortnight now and the results are astounding!

Just shows me what is good and what not so!

Colin
 
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