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June_C

June_C

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Diet only
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I feel as though I'm a bit of an oddity. I was diagnosed 4 months ago with BG levels in the 20s. I'm T1 and was immediately put on Insulin. I inject twice daily with Humolog Mix 25, 8 units before breakfast and 10 before dinner. This seems about right as my daily carb intake varies between 160 - 200, so 18 units of Insulin appears to be correct. I don't follow a lchf regime as I need to regain the stone that I lost before diagnosis and I need to avoid saturated fats due to highish cholesterol. My bg levels vary from between the lowest 4.2 to the highest of 10.8. .I usually hover in the 6s and 7s.

I get the impression that most people carb count and inject accordingly to keep their bg levels spot on. Is there anyone else on the same regime as me that seems a bit hit and miss?
 
I use 4 injections a day, novorapid and lantus, i dont carb count and ive had diabetes for 7 years, carb counting didnt work for me. I do a lot of exercise during the day (i used to work on my farm before i moved to Nottingham for university) i take quite a lot of insulin though, 6,8,16,32 but i probably eat a lot more than i should!
You're blood glucose seems in the right range, you just got to keep at it and you'll find out what suits you, everyones different!
 
HeatherJoy_ said:
I use 4 injections a day, novorapid and lantus, i dont carb count and ive had diabetes for 7 years, carb counting didnt work for me. I do a lot of exercise during the day (i used to work on my farm before i moved to Nottingham for university) i take quite a lot of insulin though, 6,8,16,32 but i probably eat a lot more than i should!
You're blood glucose seems in the right range, you just got to keep at it and you'll find out what suits you, everyones different!
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I'm a complete ignoramius, (? spelling), but is Lantus a one off injection for 24 hours and then novarapid before meals?
 
Hi. First be aware that eating saturated fats isn't the cause of high cholesterol; it's a myth based on invalid research data. Carbs are the main offender. If you want/need closer blood sugar control than you are having with an insulin mix then you will need to move to the Basal/Bolus regime with 3-5 injections per day and two insulins. You can then carb-count with this which I do and this provides freedom to eat what you want but maintaining good blood sugar (my HBa1C last week was 6.0% - my best yet)
 
June_C said:
I get the impression that most people carb count and inject accordingly to keep their bg levels spot on. Is there anyone else on the same regime as me that seems a bit hit and miss?
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Not everyone on is on a basal/bolus insulin regime, if your current insulin treatment works then there's no need to change, but even on mixed insulins you still need to carb count, here's an explanation about basal/bolus:

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/insulin/basal-bolus.html
 
Daibell said:
Hi. First be aware that eating saturated fats isn't the cause of high cholesterol; it's a myth based on invalid research data. Carbs are the main offender. If you want/need closer blood sugar control than you are having with an insulin mix then you will need to move to the Basal/Bolus regime with 3-5 injections per day and two insulins. You can then carb-count with this which I do and this provides freedom to eat what you want but maintaining good blood sugar (my HBa1C last week was 6.0% - my best yet)
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What? You've now thrown me into utter confusion. I believed the leaflets I've been given that state saturated fats are to be avoided to bring cholesterol down. I've been increasing the carbs in order to put back the lost weight, but from what you say I'm increasing my cholesterol levels. I've removed most of the saturated fats from my diet, which appears to have been a waste of time. With the greatest respect, I don't know who to believe now. Sorry. :(
 
June_C said:
What? You've now thrown me into utter confusion. I believed the leaflets I've been given that state saturated fats are to be avoided to bring cholesterol down. I've been increasing the carbs in order to put back the lost weight, but from what you say I'm increasing my cholesterol levels. I've removed most of the saturated fats from my diet, which appears to have been a waste of time. With the greatest respect, I don't know who to believe now. Sorry. :(
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2 clever Dr on blood tests, cholesterol,.heart disease and fatty liver

 
June_C said:
What? You've now thrown me into utter confusion. I believed the leaflets I've been given that state saturated fats are to be avoided to bring cholesterol down. I've been increasing the carbs in order to put back the lost weight, but from what you say I'm increasing my cholesterol levels. I've removed most of the saturated fats from my diet, which appears to have been a waste of time. With the greatest respect, I don't know who to believe now. Sorry. :(
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Hi. Sorry for throwing you into confusion but I think you will find many on this forum would say the same as me. If you can find the time do look around at the many posts covering diet. Another reference you might want to follow-up amongst the many is Dr Briffa who is a GP and who has de-bunked much of the stuff about fats and carbs with plenty of scientif references. Perhaps some other posters can add their references. The problem with carbs and the quantity we eat these days is not only do they raise blood sugar, the body stores excess very easily as fat; particularly true of fructose. Fats go thru a more complex process to be used by the body and stored as fat. I'm generalising but you will find many on this website talking about LCHF (Low carb High fat) diets. Not that they don't usually mean High Fat but as much as you want. Protein can be treated the same. My wife who wanted to reduce her weight has gone very low carb which means she goes into ketosis (fat burning) and has lost an enormous amout of weight. She doesn't worry about fat or protein. She hasn't tested her cholesterol yet. The proof of the pudding will be your meter and your measured cholesterol levels; try Low-carb with fat and protein and see where you get to.
 
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