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OMG whatever next!

Oh my don't know if that's good news or not - might not be my fault vs. harder to do something about it!
missed that Horizon it mentions at the end of that article, anyone see it?
 
AVOID CATCHING THIS "BUG"

27.01.09, 4:25am

Most major studies have proven this bug is passed along in donut and ice cream shops. Many bakeries have also seen an increase in the obesity bug. Strangely, no one at a health club or a swimming pool has caught this mysterious new contagion.

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To anyone who didn't watch the Horizon programme, "Why are thin people not fat?" It is on the BBC web page on the i-player section. Well worth watching as several experts explain about weight and their theories. It also explains more fully about the article that Sue mentions at the start of this thread.
 
I did watch it last night - and I was absolutely appalled at how poorly controlled the study was. The human guinea pigs were all targeted with trying to put on as much weight as they could in a 3 week period, and were given a target of 5000 calories a day to try to achieve this. But there was absolutely no scientific approach or control over what they ate. Some gorged on high-carb foods, some on high-fat foods (one guy ate a whole family-sized tub of clotted cream in one sitting!), some on a mixture. One thing that was mentioned, almost as if it was a surprising discovery to have come from the study, was that if you starve the body then it will use fat as its energy source. I think the scientists behind this must have got their qualifications from the Usborne Book of ... series!!
 
I agree with your comments Dennis but I was fascinated by the differing views of the scientists concerning fat issues, The chicken fat, how fat enlarges, the hunter gathers etc.
The thin people had differing weight gains and the reasoning behind their normal thin status was also food for thought, (excuse the pun).
Catherine.
 
I found the virus theory interesting and looked up the research.
I was interested to find that obese rats and mice given the virus had lower lipid and glucose levels in spite of being obese. When they tested non diabetics with the virus antibodies, those with antibodies had lower glucose levels, diabetics with the antibodies also had lower Hba1cs than diabetics without it. They are tentatively suggesting the possibility of using the virus to as a diabetes medication!
 
I agree with you too Dennis.

I'm old enough to remember when Horizon was a science programme, interested in exploring hypotheses. Last night's show was full of endless repetition, gratuitous shots from the fridge-cam and a distinct lack of any scientific analysis at all.
No control of the food groups, no measurement of serum insulin, no lipid analysis, aaarrghh!!
What a wasted opportunity! More interested in ideas about chicken-borne obesity viruses than examining the simpler explanations.
Occam's razor anyone?

fergus
 
Absolutely spot on, Dennis and Fergus - and what's more I have developed a vaccine to counter this virus. I'm calling it the low-carb diet. :lol:
 
i think this runs through the whole spate of Fatty / Skinny docs floating on our screens.
You could be forgiven for thinking that this is another way of delaying the arrival of the Awful truth. Which as someone said in a post a while back might result in a very expensive class law suite.
Answer more smoke and mirrors to confuse the great unwashed.

Conspiracey theory ... perhaps but i wasnt eve born when they started it

Dave P
 
Well they needn't bother knocking on my door or they may be examining the compost bin at very close range!! :twisted: :twisted:
 
phoenix said:
I found the virus theory interesting and looked up the research.
I was interested to find that obese rats and mice given the virus had lower lipid and glucose levels in spite of being obese. When they tested non diabetics with the virus antibodies, those with antibodies had lower glucose levels, diabetics with the antibodies also had lower Hba1cs than diabetics without it. They are tentatively suggesting the possibility of using the virus to as a diabetes medication!
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Now that *was* Interesting. I'd heard about the virus previously but didn't bother doing any further research.

This would suggest the virus actually removes the glucose and lipids from the blood into the fat cells. In that case my family must be infected with the antivirus - we have what Michael Eades calls "metabolic obesity" where we have the symptoms of metabolic syndrome and sometimes diabetes *without* putting on weight, the glucose and lipids stay rattling around in the blood instead of being stashed away.

Actually that's how the PPAR antagonists (Actos and Avandia) are supposed to work, they generate more fat cells where the glucose can be deposited. (They do other stuff as well but that appears to be one way they lower BG)
 
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