On a low-carb diet but do not want to lose any weight ?

dNZ

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Hi All,
I just became a member of the forum and got many useful information already!!.

I am diagnosed with type 2 diabetes (also have cholesterol) . Past six months I was suffering with tiredness and cant get enough of sleep no matter how much I sleep.
My lab results are:
HbA1c:40
Fasting Glucose : 107
Glucose 0 min :102
Glucose 60: 203
Glucose 120: 108
Total cholesterol : 285 mg/dl
HDL:47.4
LDL:163,9
Triglyceride: 228
And started pay attention on my daily life and I feel much more energetic now.
I do my exercises at least for 45 mins everyday (walking). I started low carb dieting when I was 93 kg, now I am 85 kg. But do not want lose any weight more (195 cm tall).
Any advice ?
Should I take more fat ?
Thanks

Deniz
 

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Hi dNZ and welcome to the forum. In case you haven’t seen it yet I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
I’m low carbing for my type 2 and have lost weight but still have a bit more to lose. So I’ll tag in a couple of forum members who continue on low carb but are now maintaining weight instead of losing.
@Goonergal and @shelley262 can you help here please?
 

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As you have been actively losing weight this may affect (skew) your lipid values temporarily.

You seem to be a comparatively fit young man so resistance training will build/maintain muscle mass and help to stabilise your weight. Think of fats as fuel that you are topping up so that your body does not have to raid it's stores (body fat).

One last thing, I lost far more weight than I intended or wanted and became quite concerned at the time but it seems that the size and weight I am now is as it should be for me personally so I had to just get used to being thinner than my mirror shows me.
 

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It can be problematic at first to halt the weight loss. It requires a fine balancing act. Trust me, I know.

I added more fats, mostly but not exclusively from protein sources. I doubled my consumption of eggs, started eating cheese again, more cream, extra mayo. I also reduced my carbs at the same time because I wanted lower blood sugar levels, so the fats and protein had to increase quite a bit. I used my bathroom scales and my blood glucose meter alongside a food diary. It took a fair while to find the right balance, but once I did, all was well. That was in late 2014. Since then I have maintained an ideal weight with no more losses and no more gains.

I'm afraid I don't understand your cholesterol and lipid results. We have different measurement units in the UK.
 
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Should not losing weight on a low carb diet, work like not losing weight on any other kind of diet. Calories in - calories out. Calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate + your activity level and then you have the total calories you burn for a day. Don't eat at a calorie deficit and you won't loose weight. I use the chronometer app to calculate and track everything, but my goal is to loose weight, but you can easily adapt how you use the app to maintain weight.
 

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Should not losing weight on a low carb diet, work like not losing weight on any other kind of diet. Calories in - calories out. Calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate + your activity level and then you have the total calories you burn for a day. Don't eat at a calorie deficit and you won't loose weight. I use the chronometer app to calculate and track everything, but my goal is to loose weight, but you can easily adapt how you use the app to maintain weight.

It isn't as simple as calories in - calories out. Not all calories are equal. Most low carbers don't count calories at all.
 

dNZ

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As you have been actively losing weight this may affect (skew) your lipid values temporarily.

You seem to be a comparatively fit young man so resistance training will build/maintain muscle mass and help to stabilise your weight. Think of fats as fuel that you are topping up so that your body does not have to raid it's stores (body fat).

One last thing, I lost far more weight than I intended or wanted and became quite concerned at the time but it seems that the size and weight I am now is as it should be for me personally so I had to just get used to being thinner than my mirror shows me.
Thanks for the reply
So if I understand right. Need to take more fat as well as more protein while I go gym (extra light weight lifting after cardio ) so I can maintain my body weight increasing muscle while both losing body fat and having more fat.
 
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dNZ

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Should not losing weight on a low carb diet, work like not losing weight on any other kind of diet. Calories in - calories out. Calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate + your activity level and then you have the total calories you burn for a day. Don't eat at a calorie deficit and you won't loose weight. I use the chronometer app to calculate and track everything, but my goal is to loose weight, but you can easily adapt how you use the app to maintain weight.
Maybe time to time My diet is more like ketogenic. I find really helpful getting less and less carb for decreasing my glucose level.
 
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Thanks for the reply
So if I understand right. Need to take more fat as well as more protein while I go gym (extra light weight lifting after cardio ) so I can maintain my body weight increasing muscle while both losing body fat and having more fat.

Yeah, it is something you will have to experiment with to find what works.
 
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I am a skinny type 2 ,adding to the things a!ready mentioned I eat avocados, nuts,double cream and full fat yoghurt .I also have red wine at weekend and dark chocolate ( over 80% ) and I put butter on my vegetables
Carol
 

dNZ

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It can be problematic at first to halt the weight loss. It requires a fine balancing act. Trust me, I know.

I added more fats, mostly but not exclusively from protein sources. I doubled my consumption of eggs, started eating cheese again, more cream, extra mayo. I also reduced my carbs at the same time because I wanted lower blood sugar levels, so the fats and protein had to increase quite a bit. I used my bathroom scales and my blood glucose meter alongside a food diary. It took a fair while to find the right balance, but once I did, all was well. That was in late 2014. Since then I have maintained an ideal weight with no more losses and no more gains.

I'm afraid I don't understand your cholesterol and lipid results. We have different measurement units in the UK.
I try to take coconut oil, butter, and olive oil as much as possible. Probably Turkey different than UK
 

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@dNZ People have given some great advice here so I shall say welcome to the forum and I wish you all the luck in the world!
 
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Thanks @Rachox for the tag and welcome @dNZ

Like you I eat a ketogenic diet. I’m finding it harder to get the balance right while trying to maintain. Ensuring you get enough fat is important - eating ketogenically it is possible to derive most of that from animal fat, but depends which cuts of meat/types of fish you prefer. I’m actually slightly heavier now than at my lowest weight last summer, but have gone down a clothes size as my body adjusts.

So far as is possible being guided by hunger is a good way to ensure you get the right balance. It’s trial and error.
 

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So far as is possible being guided by hunger is a good way to ensure you get the right balance. It’s trial and error.

If I were guided by hunger I would fail because I am so rarely hungry. I agree it is all trial and error, and getting the balance right takes time and effort. This is why, when someone is overweight and losing, they need to plan well ahead as soon as they can before they reach the target weight.
 

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@deniz
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Caeseji

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If I were guided by hunger I would fail because I am so rarely hungry. I agree it is all trial and error, and getting the balance right takes time and effort. This is why, when someone is overweight and losing, they need to plan well ahead as soon as they can before they reach the target weight.
I'll admit that I ended up losing a LOT of my hunger signals lately especially with a bit more of a shift towards focusing on protein whilst training. However I still have a lot of fat to lose so it's advantageous but I know precisely what you mean.
 
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