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Samomia123

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Firstly thank you for accepting me in this community
I have a few questions and hope to get some input
I'm 52 male and as its Ramadan I'm fasting
My readings before dinner yesterday was 6.8
Before bedtime about 4 hours later 8.5( (after having dinner and 2 coffees with no sugar )
ONLY MEDS I AM TAKING IS GLUCOSCRIPT X 2 CAPS TWICE DAILY MORNING AND BEDTIME
1 X ALPHA-LIPOIC ACID 200MG IN THE MORNING
1 X MAGNESIUM TAB 160MG AT BEDTIME
Got up at 5am and reading 8.7
Had a slice of low GI toast with butter and a cup of tea no sugar and 1 glass water ) slept for 2 and half hours
Awoke at 8am and got a reading of 15.3
At 9am 12.1
At 10 am 9.5
At 12 pm 6.6
Now at 1pm 6.4
How or what could have caused a spike at 8am of 15.5 (yesterday at 8am my reading was 17.4 and the day before at 8am 19.2 )
SO???
1:Am I a diabetic
2 :I don't get thirsty nor do I wake at night to urinate
3 Where do I start and what tests should I do
4 :Who should I consult (GP OR SPECIALIST)
5 :Anybody tried glucoscript
6 :Could I maybe have DAWN PHENOMENON

KINDLY ADVISE
 
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Hi @Samomia123 ,

A warm welcome to the forum.!

First port of call would be to see your doctor for tests to confirm that.
Great news you posess a Blood meter.

Going to tag in @daisy1 with an information pack. & @AM1874

More advice will follow soon!

Good luck.
 
Hi. I'm not sure what effect fasting will be having on your blood sugar but there is a hint in your readings that you might be diabetic so do get checks done when you have finished fasting. Looking at Glucoscript I suspect the effect on blood sugar will be very small if any. Over the years I have not come across any natural drug that really helps more than a little. You are doing the right thing by keeping the carbs down and low-GI helps a bit but it's the total carbs that matter. Initially you should see a GP. You can always get a local pharmacy to do a spot finger prick test; try to get it done around 2 hours after a typical meal and it should be below 8.5mmol.
 
Hi. I'm not sure what effect fasting will be having on your blood sugar but there is a hint in your readings that you might be diabetic so do get checks done when you have finished fasting. Looking at Glucoscript I suspect the effect on blood sugar will be very small if any. Over the years I have not come across any natural drug that really helps more than a little. You are doing the right thing by keeping the carbs down and low-GI helps a bit but it's the total carbs that matter. Initially you should see a GP. You can always get a local pharmacy to do a spot finger prick test; try to get it done around 2 hours after a typical meal and it should be below 8.5mmol.
hi and thanks for the input .
my average for the last 1 month as paranoid as I am by testing many times during the day is about 8.4
WHAT SCARES ME IS THE MORNING READINGS OF 15 -19
WHAT COULD SPIKE THAT SO MUCH
 
Liver dumps (glucose) quite possibly. Readings like that indicate diabetes but you need to check with your GP
 
Hi @Samomia123 .. and welcome
You have made a good move coming here. I was in the same position as you and many others when I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb .. pretty shocked with no information and no idea what was happening to me. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly ..

If /when you are diagnosed, managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @Jaylee has already tagged @daisy1 for you and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Hope this helps
 
Firstly thank you for accepting me in this community
I have a few questions and hope to get some input
I'm 52 male and as its Ramadan I'm fasting
My readings before dinner yesterday was 6.8
Before bedtime about 4 hours later 8.5( (after having dinner and 2 coffees with no sugar )
ONLY MEDS I AM TAKING IS GLUCOSCRIPT X 2 CAPS TWICE DAILY MORNING AND BEDTIME
1 X ALPHA-LIPOIC ACID 200MG IN THE MORNING
1 X MAGNESIUM TAB 160MG AT BEDTIME
Got up at 5am and reading 8.7
Had a slice of low GI toast with butter and a cup of tea no sugar and 1 glass water ) slept for 2 and half hours
Awoke at 8am and got a reading of 15.3
At 9am 12.1
At 10 am 9.5
At 12 pm 6.6
Now at 1pm 6.4
How or what could have caused a spike at 8am of 15.5 (yesterday at 8am my reading was 17.4 and the day before at 8am 19.2 )
SO???
1:Am I a diabetic
2 :I don't get thirsty nor do I wake at night to urinate
3 Where do I start and what tests should I do
4 :Who should I consult (GP OR SPECIALIST)
5 :Anybody tried glucoscript
6 :Could I maybe have DAWN PHENOMENON

KINDLY ADVISE
Get a professional opinion, those readings indicate a problem so get it checked immediately.
 
@Samomia123

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

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On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

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Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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