Goodlucktrev
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 1
Don't pay them. Check this advice first
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/l...g-parking-tickets/appealing-a-parking-ticket/
Too many people get caught this way. Private companies (unless they're registered to do so) have do not have the same legal rights as councils.
These private parking company fines are seen as unreasonable and you can write to them and offer a reasonable amount which they will accept
This is correct, it is why I said pay the fine.Every one has the right to appeal the decision whether they are successful or not is another matter
It is not that I have a lack of compassion, but I have seen and read to many sob stories in my lifetime to make me hardened to them.Not only do we face a lack of compassion and understanding from the public in general but fellow diabetics too.
Actually, I think it is you who have not read my posts properly.
Secondly, I have said that by the car staying too long in a parking space, a fine is due on it. That is, according to the parking contract, a fact. Regardless of the reason. It is very simple.
I don't see it as a "sob story". It's someone asking for advice.
But instead the thread is full of blame and criticism.
That used to be true, but I think the Coalition Government did the Protection of Freedoms Act* 2012 and they became more legally enforceable. I'd be wary of simply ignoring it.Check out YouTube there is a watchdog report on these private parking company's and their advice is ignore it as it is not legally enforceable
This is correct, it is why I said pay the fine.
You can sort it out / appeal later with the parking management.
It is not that I have a lack of compassion, but I have seen and read to many sob stories in my lifetime to make me hardened to them.
Bailiffs are just big, bully men in monkey suits. They don't scare me. Besides, if they knock, you can just offer to pay £1 a week.
I was joking!
That is now not such good advice. the Protection of Freedoms Act introduced keeper liability for parking charges and depending on which company issued the ticket, some are very litigious having gained recent Court wins which reinforce their position. there are ways to easily defeat these charges but ignoring them is no longer as effective as it once wasIf it's a council car park contact them, they'll probably waive the fine. If it's a private car park ignore the letters. You've had the first letter, you'll get another with the fine doubled. Then cos they're such nice people they'll send another offering to accept some reduced amount or further action will be taken. About 2 weeks later you'll get a letter from some made up debt recovery service. Just a different letterhead but from the same parking company. Do nothing and that will be the last you ever hear from them. At least that's been my experience from quite a few parking mistakes.
But this is a private parking ticket and that introduces many grey areas. Was the signage adequate enough to form a contract? What was the actual loss to the landowner? Has the ticket been issued for a breach of contract or for trespass? Has the PPC complied with the PoFA? There is also an argument under the Equality Act whereby 'reasonable adjustments' must be made to accommodate disabled users (and Diabetes IS classed as a 'disability' under the terms of the Act). One such adjustment to be considered should be a little leeway in the event of an overstay caused by that disabilityBut her car was occupying a space that it was no longer entitled to occupy. It (she) had broken the contract that she had agreed to by parking there.
You are looking at it with the mindset of someone who wants to apply grey emotions and sympathy to a Yes/No issue.
I am looking at it from a Yes/No perspective, that does not have room for people to bend rules to suit their personal circumstances.
I'm not sure why you involved your self in this conversation! As the poor lady states she was with child and treating a hypo, which if you have diabetes you would know you can't always help having! So therefore has a legal obligation to sort her health out before endangering others!Playing Devils Advocate:
I'm shopping, and I wrench my ankle. It requires a sit down and a recovery period before I manage to hobble back to the car.
- and there is a ticket because I am late.
Would I consider trying to avoid paying?
Hell no.
That's very special of you.I have known for 30+ years exactly what circumstances cause my hypos.
Why do you feel that your situation is applicable to everyone else who shares your symptom of reactive hypoglycemia, much less a completely different medical disease, Type 1 Diabetes? This seems to show a great deal of ignorance regarding insulin-dependence and the consequences of relying upon using it. It's highly offensive to see you blame other forum members (literally every Type 1) for supposedly being remiss in having occasional hypos.Of course, i do still balls up. I'm human. But when i think about what happened i can easily work out why.
And that helps me make the next one more controllable.
That's very special of you.
Why do you feel that your situation is applicable to everyone else who shares your symptom of reactive hypoglycemia, much less a completely different medical disease, Type 1 Diabetes? This seems to show a great deal of ignorance regarding insulin-dependence and the consequences of relying upon using it. It's highly offensive to see you blame other forum members (literally every Type 1) for supposedly being remiss in having occasional hypos.
At least try to understand the situation of others, even if it's not at all similar to your situation. If you can't manage that, it might just be best to hold off on playing the blame game in general.
No, her apparently impeccable control was explicitly labeled as her personal opinion. And claiming to act as the devil's advocate does not excuse someone from saying offensive things, or being held accountable for them."Devils advocacy" was also stressed in the earlier posts.
Morning Stellson, I received a £100 fine in a motorway services area at 0300hrs ,I have type 2 which went a bit Tonto for a while due to steroids, and other medication ,anyway my glucose levels went the other way while on the motorway and my vision started to blur , I pulled into service area walked about for a while and went for a sleep and overstayed my welcome unaware of the parking restrictions. Wrote to parking fine company explained my issues and give them their dues wrote back and cancelled fine. Citizens advice useless. Contact company soonestToday i received a £70 parking fine from a private company for overstaying by 20 minutes. My reason for overstaying and not moving my car within the time allowed is that I was legally not safe to drive as I was abiding by the DVLA regulations and treating my hypo to raise it to 5mmols and then waiting 45 minutes to ensure the safety of me, my baby and other drivers.
I've not contacted parking company as im waiting on a call back from citizens advice about this however if I don't pay within 8 days they'll increase the charge and take it further....so was I to risk all these lives and break the law???? Confused.....
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