The blood test results in 6 months time will be VERY intesting as they will show if you have defeated your Type2 in a way that allows you to live a normal life.
Yesterday marked 3 weeks of consecutive sub 7s days, I have been a little stressed the last few days as I have been dealing with problems here at home. Have also been a little anxious about the looming end of the eight weeks. Yesterday I had soup for both my lunch and evening meal and I was surprised to see my fasting BG this morning was lower than my last yesterday, and its my lowest fasting BG since September 9th.
It has not all been bad though, 27th is our wedding anniversary and my wife got her citizenship yesterday so a couple of things to celebrate in a few days. And of course I see my DN on the 27th too for my blood test results.
Week 8 Day 53:
Fasting BG 4.5
This happens with most (maybe all) people who were writen up in "newcastle" research papers. It seems that while losing weight fast, our body can cope with more carbs. I don't like the high carbs but the research clearly show they are not an issuie on a newcastle type diat.
Remember that the newcastle research only included people who have had Type2 for a limited number of years, hence the research results are unlikely to match everyone on this side. I would expect anyone with "true type2" who have had it for a shot time would remove the fat from their liver very quickly and hence cope with the carbs, as their insulin production will not have dropped that much below normal levels.
What I find remarkable is that your BG levels have stayed so low throughout - forgive me if you've mentioned this before but did you go for a low-carb option for your soups? Because if not then it's tremendous you've been able to keep sub 7 even while eating carbs.
I know what you mean - I'm planning for after the end of ND already. I think I will carry on with low carbing and skipping breakfast on week days (I'm not missing it) then maybe slowly increase my calories by 100 cals a day for the first week, 200 cals a day for the second week, etc until I get to the point where I'm comfortably maintaining - and maybe incorporate the odd day or two of fasting until dinner. I will definitely need to keep an eye on calories otherwise I'll be back to where I started.
This looks as I thought, as although low calorie, it looks mid carb to me.The soups are no "added" sugar and 25% less salt.
Carbs:
Chicken 19.6g per can
Tomato 20.2g per can
Vegetable 28.6g per can
I have only been using the Chicken soup since the end of week 1, I sometimes have it for lunch and evening meal as I did today so approx 40g carbs. The soups with the added sugar are quite a bit higher.
I have attempted to keep my carbs low, but mostly to stay in ketosis so as to achieve the rapid weight loss.
Remember that the newcastle research only included people who have had Type2 for a limited number of years, hence the research results are unlikely to match everyone on this side. I would expect anyone with "true type2" who have had it for a shot time would remove the fat from their liver very quickly and hence cope with the carbs, as their insulin production will not have dropped that much below normal levels.
I'm currently reading Fung's Complete Guide to Fasting in which he seems to say that all type 2 is reversible. Am only halfway through it all the moment though and haven't yet got to the bit which talks about who shouldn't fast. It does make complete sense thoughI'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that by the time of diagnosis most people have lost around 50% of their beta cells? There's a rather steep jump in blood glucose levels right before you get to the 'irreversible' diagnosis, I think. Either way it seemed in the original study that Prof Taylor was quite surprised that normal function could be resumed - and it definitely makes sense that the more beta cell function you have left, the easier it is to kickstart normal insulin reactions again.
I wonder if that could be established with testing? If they tested for beta cell function as part of DIRECT at the start of the study the results might shed some light on that.
I'm currently reading Fung's Complete Guide to Fasting in which he seems to say that all type 2 is reversible. Am only halfway through it all the moment though and haven't yet got to the bit which talks about who shouldn't fast. It does make complete sense though
I think that Dr Fung's success is counted in the number of his patients who have been successful who probably number significantly more than the ND trials which have involved so far 40 people.I know that Dr Fung is very popular around here and that he has helped a lot of people on the forum. However I'm not sure if he's done any clinical trials around his theories yet, which I guess is why the ND is held up as a more 'legitimate' response to T2D than intermittent fasting. I find all of these things are hugely dependent on what is meant by the word 'reversible'. To me that sounds like a return to normal insulin response rather than just having well-controlled blood sugars, but I don't know how Dr Fung uses the terminology
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