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Type 2 Physical work and BG levels

Peadair O Brionn

Peadair O Brionn

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Location
london
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
having diabetes...... people who wear backpacks on the tube
So I work in construction it’s a bit demanding physically and I’m wondering if it’s affecting my BG Levels . This morning FBG was 6.1 dropped to 6 after coffee and cream a burger and an egg ( no bun) . Ok put it down to DP . Tested again at 3 .5 hrs later and 6.6 haven’t had any snacks or food since breakfast
What’s goin on . At the weekend when not working my BG Levels are all in the non diabetic range all be it with a few glasses of wine in the evening
 
Peadair O Brionn said:
What’s goin on .
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Hi Peadair,
If I reading this right your doing physical activity and your bg is going up.
Since we all know that exercise lowers bg you think is should be gong down.

This is true exercise will lower gb but it also can increase bg due to the body needing to free up energy/sugar to power your muscles during the period of physical activity. :bookworm:

This is not bad thing it's not a Dawn Phenomenon Liver dump type of excess sugar running around in your system it's more a power plant upping its output at peak times through out the day to meet customer demand.
And then drops back down on the of peak. ;)
:bag:
 
I agree last summer mowing the front lawn in the sun put my levels up. Last week with my levels well controlled I managed to do it with no discernible rise. I’m not telling hubby though, his turn to mow the grass next time ;)

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As we are all different we all react differently to foods and to excercise. Insulin resistance is a major factor, too.

By the way, Dawn Phenomena is also known as Liver Dump, liver dumps can happen at any time during the day when the body thinks it is getting a little low on glucose. The problem for those of us with Type 2 Diabetes can be that these liver dumps can be OTT. As your bg management improves and hopefully insulin resistance is lowered then excessive liver dumps may become a lot less problematic.
Emptying the fat from and around the liver and pancreas is imo key here.
 
There is no Spoon said:
Hi Peadair,
If I reading this right your doing physical activity and your bg is going up.
Since we all know that exercise lowers bg you think is should be gong down.

This is true exercise will lower gb but it also can increase bg due to the body needing to free up energy/sugar to power your muscles during the period of physical activity. :bookworm:

This is not bad thing it's not a Dawn Phenomenon Liver dump type of excess sugar running around in your system it's more a power plant upping its output at peak times through out the day to meet customer demand.
And then drops back down on the of peak. ;)
:bag:
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Thanks for the response. The activity / Work goes on all day so it’s keeping my levels above 6 all day from 06:00 till about 18:00 after dinner , about 19:00 they drop to mid 5s then in the morning back up to 6s again . I’m only doin about 20 to30 grs of carbs a day . At the weekend I’m all in the non diabetic range . Very confused.com . HbAc is comin up soon and need it to be down and stay off the Metformin if it goes up my GP will insist I go back on it
 
Peadair O Brionn said:
Thanks for the response. The activity / Work goes on all day so it’s keeping my levels above 6 all day from 06:00 till about 18:00 after dinner , about 19:00 they drop to mid 5s then in the morning back up to 6s again . I’m only doin about 20 to30 grs of carbs a day . At the weekend I’m all in the non diabetic range . Very confused.com . HbAc is comin up soon and need it to be down and stay off the Metformin if it goes up my GP will insist I go back on it
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Just remember your GP can insist all he/she likes, he can even write a prescription but whether you actually get the prescription filled and take the tablets is entirely up to you.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Not in everyone, sadly. Housework (more strenuous stuff like cleaning loads of windows) pushes mine up, and others report similar. It may have a good effect later, but not for a while.
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Sorry blue I'm I reading this wrong?

It seems like your contradicting me about bg expected to go down, but at the same time agreeing with what I said about levels going up due to exertion and then dropping back down again.o_O

Am I just picking it up wrong?;)
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There is no Spoon said:
Sorry blue I'm I reading this wrong?

It seems like your contradicting me about bg expected to go down, but at the same time agreeing with what I said about levels going up due to exertion and then dropping back down again.o_O

Am I just picking it up wrong?;)
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It was me, Guv. I picked it up wrong ;) (I was in need of my lunch) but 2 people agreed with me. :)
 
For me, different amounts of exercise, at different intensities, have different effects.

A long, strenuous hill walk (whihc I don't do often) will cause my bgs to drop like a stone.
A gentle ramble in my lunchbreak with the dogs, and my bg trundles along in neutral.
And a rapid dash to catch the bus will temporarily raise my bg, then it will dip lower, after

I say this with my tongue firmly in cheek,@Peadair O Brionn
- perhaps you aren't working hard enough...?

I know, I know, I'll get me coat!
 
Peadair O Brionn said:
Thanks for the response. The activity / Work goes on all day so it’s keeping my levels above 6 all day from 06:00 till about 18:00 after dinner , about 19:00 they drop to mid 5s then in the morning back up to 6s again . I’m only doin about 20 to30 grs of carbs a day . At the weekend I’m all in the non diabetic range . Very confused.com . HbAc is comin up soon and need it to be down and stay off the Metformin if it goes up my GP will insist I go back on it
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Colour me controversial but I think we don't know enough about bg levels and long-term effects to be certain that raised bg due to exercise is as horrific as raised bg due to sitting still and eating cake. Some of what is known such as

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090511140951.htm

makes me think high bg during activity is not necessarily going to have the same effect.

Pure speculation, but we've seen the bg spikes of athletes go pretty crazy during a day of training, and athletes do tend to live longer than average according to the stats.

I'm only saying this to give a positive slant on your experience, I know it doesn't exactly help if it means your GP will tell you to take Metformin and you don't want to.

By the sounds of it, your average levels, when weekends are taken into consideration, may well lead to a decent enough HbA1c for the GP to not insist on Metformin. Will be interesting to see what you get.
 
Peadair O Brionn said:
The activity / Work goes on all day so it’s keeping my levels above 6 all day from 06:00 till about 18:00 after dinner
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Think of it like this:
You run a bath half full, leave the taps on and pull the plug out. The bath will continue to be half full but it's not the same water in the tub anymore. ;)
:bag:
 
AdamJames said:
Colour me controversial but I think we don't know enough about bg levels and long-term effects to be certain that raised bg due to exercise is as horrific as raised bg due to sitting still and eating cake. Some of what is known such as

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090511140951.htm

makes me think high bg during activity is not necessarily going to have the same effect.

Pure speculation, but we've seen the bg spikes of athletes go pretty crazy during a day of training, and athletes do tend to live longer than average according to the stats.

I'm only saying this to give a positive slant on your experience, I know it doesn't exactly help if it means your GP will tell you to take Metformin and you don't want to.

By the sounds of it, your average levels, when weekends are taken into consideration, may well lead to a decent enough HbA1c for the GP to not insist on Metformin. Will be interesting to see what you get.
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Non Diabetic athletes cannot be compared to insulin resistant T2s.
 
Guzzler said:
Non Diabetic athletes cannot be compared to insulin resistant T2s.
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True, but I do think the example of athletes is enough to justify scientific enquiry into the question: "are regular periods of raised blood glucose due to exercise as damaging as the same periods of raised blood glucose due to food".
 
On a purely personal level, I've found that the only way I can get my blood sugar to rock bottom is if I lounge around while fasting. When I'm out walking, they never ever get near bottoming out. But walking makes me feel so healthy during and afterwards, that I've decided to "take the hit" and keep it up, at the expense of higher average blood glucose levels.
 
Guzzler said:
Non Diabetic athletes cannot be compared to insulin resistant T2s.
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I believe physical work and exercise is good and please ignore the raise , my number in the morning is higher than many other in here but my HbA1c is lower than most too and I am sure it is a due to exercise , I have stopped measuring after exercises and keep focus on gaining muscle mass and burning calories my last HbA1c was 36
 
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