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Planetarygo

Active Member
Messages
37
Location
Stoke-on-Trent
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi all, well where do I start...I'm Gem from the UK and I was diagnosed with Type 2, high blood pressure and possible high cholesterol about a month ago. The doctor has put me on Metformin x2 a day and medication for high blood pressure and the cholesterol and I can honestly say I'm kinda floating about at the moment not sure where my head is. I went to see the "diabetes" nurse at my doctors and literally felt like jumping under a bus as she gave me no help, I asked her for advice and she printed me a little paraphernalia off and said a dietician, eye doctor and foot doctor will be in touch. I've had my feet seen to (feettouchingaphobe) and hearing my pulse through my foot was the strangest thing ever! And nothing else...I'm vegetarian and kind of struggling with well everything really, if it isn't low carb there's too much salt, if there isn't sugar there's too much fat in and I'm kind of lost . Very overweight, very overwhelmed and kinda messed up :( I've bought a self testing kit thingy and tested a few times but honestly I'm just at a low at the moment. It gets better right?
 
Hi Gem and a warm welcome to the forum :)

I'll tag @daisy1 as she has some great information that you should find useful.
 
Hi Gem,

DON'T PANIC!! We were all in your situation once, ask any questions, no matter how daft you think they are. Many of us here don't follow the NHS guidelines on what you should eat (The eatwell plate) that your dietitian will probably advise you on, but I don't want to blind you with low carb, low GI and other diets that we follow. Just have a good look around the forum and ask away
 
Thank you Lessci :) I've had a good nosey around and the thing I'm most confused about (surprise surprise) is what to eat low carb, high fat, low salt, confuddled isn't the word lol
 
Thank you Lessci :) I've had a good nosey around and the thing I'm most confused about (surprise surprise) is what to eat low carb, high fat, low salt, confuddled isn't the word lol
Hello planetarygo, welcome ,i can assure you as a t2 diabetic for 3 yrs now , things only got better when i found this forum and the wonderful members who have been invaluable with their advices , please if you go to the doc's for more tests ,get a printout then we can ,help you understand your results, when i was first diagnosed, my bs was 28.6, doc said take these metformin and try and lose a little weight, oh and avoid anything sugary....i did not do very well on that advice in fact i got worse..this forum gave the right advice and i'm so glad that the members here give thier time and help,so don't worry, keep posting and as you learn and apply you will get control.
 
Thank you Clive :) I think an average test recently has been 6.3, but since on all these medications seems like I've always got a headache, stomachache and I desperately need to lose weight but I'm constantly dragging myself about :(
 
@Planetarygo

Hello Gem and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, particular with regard to diet and carbs. Ask questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Gem and welcome. It is VERY confuddelling when you're first diagnosed but take your time, read and ask questions, I promise you will become unfuddled in a week or two, stick with it.
DDx
 
Thank you DD, think it'll get easier if I can find some people with all the 3 I've got then I might not over panic EVERYTHING I eat
 
Well, if 'by the three' you mean high BP, cholesterol and T2, I've got those and a whole lot of boring other things too lol. I was diagnosed in March and started on my new way of eating, low carb full fat, ditched the bread, spuds, pasta and rice, the weight is coming off and and the blood glucose reading is half what I started at. I'm walking more too. If I can manage it it can't be too hard 'cause I'm a lazy so n so. Take Daisy's advice and you'll be on the right track.
DD
 
Hi and welcome
I have all three ! On Meds for high BP on statins for high C and Meds for high BG if that's the three you mean ?
The main thing is to Cut down on the carbs , smaller portions will bring down your BG and weight. The doctor will prob up your metformin after a few days but try to take them with food which should help if you get an upset tummy (I very much hope you don't)
Good luck on you new journey
Keep well stay safe JJ
 
Ah JJ thank you :) I do suffer from GERD also which gives me a dodge tummy wonder if these tablets don't do well together?
 
Hi and welcome from a fellow t2 veggie who pretty much lived on carbs. As a simple guide above ground veg is good, below ground veg normally high carb. Many low carbers go for veg in place of rice and pasta so courgette strips or riced cauliflower. Takes time to adjust do cutting down could be a start. Berries seem ok for most people and go for full fat Greek or natural yogurt. Some people can tolerate high protein breads like burgen soya and linseed. Self testing can help you know what foods affect you as everyone is different. Everything is daunting at first but it gets easier
 
Thank you Sue :) thing is if I'm using full fat things more now I don't know how to incorporate that with slimming world and things...
 
Hi all, well where do I start...I'm Gem from the UK and I was diagnosed with Type 2, high blood pressure and possible high cholesterol about a month ago. The doctor has put me on Metformin x2 a day and medication for high blood pressure and the cholesterol and I can honestly say I'm kinda floating about at the moment not sure where my head is. I went to see the "diabetes" nurse at my doctors and literally felt like jumping under a bus as she gave me no help, I asked her for advice and she printed me a little paraphernalia off and said a dietician, eye doctor and foot doctor will be in touch. I've had my feet seen to (feettouchingaphobe) and hearing my pulse through my foot was the strangest thing ever! And nothing else...I'm vegetarian and kind of struggling with well everything really, if it isn't low carb there's too much salt, if there isn't sugar there's too much fat in and I'm kind of lost . Very overweight, very overwhelmed and kinda messed up :( I've bought a self testing kit thingy and tested a few times but honestly I'm just at a low at the moment. It gets better right?


Hi Planetarygo welcome to the forum, i was to diagnosed with type 2 recently in April, My DN nurse has been brilliant so far. when i was diagnosed i was made appointment to see her for the first time, after reading what was said about them was feeling bit apprehensive. But when i met here, she gave me advice about diet, I told her i was going on the Newcastle diet and she was very supportive. I asked her that i would be wanting to test my blood sugars whilst on the diet and she gave me a meter.

so i have asked many questions on here and got good answers Just ask what you want and someone will answer or point you in the right direction
 
just ask any question , do not worry how daft it may sound, it only way to get answers
 
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