Why? If I disagree then I either stop reading the thread or pass comment. We're all grownups so surely we can respect each other's opinions? I don't think that people are politicised enough these days.I think politics should be absolutely kept OUT and OFF the forum. Its a sure way to inflame and spoil relations between members. Better to focus on our common interests and concerns.
Spot on!I will vote not because I believe any of the lies of any of the party's but mainly because I feel that if I don't then I will have no right to complain when the reigning group make a mess of things as usual.
I just wish they would stop slagging each other off and maybe take a look at the others ideas list and see if they can make use of it and make it work for us.
I have to disagree.I think that this is wrong. People went through hardship, were ostracised and even died so I could vote. So I feel that it is my moral duty to exercise that right.
For those who are interested, my first vote was for the greens and there after labour. I try to encourage the young people I work with that it is important for them to vote. I have talked about some of my views and told them that they should read all the manifestos and make their own minds up. But they should find out what's going on in their own countries, the rest of the world and vote.
I have friends and relatives who vote differently to me. That's fine - but they are wrong
Google the word Tory. It's an 18th century term for robber or thief!
If you voted then you have no right to complain about what those people did and do in your name.I will vote not because I believe any of the lies of any of the party's but mainly because I feel that if I don't then I will have no right to complain
I think that it is a moral duty. How can you complain about the system if you abstain? With rights come responsibilities. Politics govern every aspect of our lives whether working or retired, old or young. I abhor our current government and what it and others have done to my profession and that of others. I am financially worse off now than I was 5 years ago. My pay is performance related and there are many teachers who are not payed their due for unscrupulous reasons by people who should know better. I have seen good colleagues been made redundant and lose homes and livelihoods. There are teachers out there who are undeserving losing jobs because of unscrupulous people bringing competency proceedings against them with a frightening lack of evidence which no one (including the unions does anything about) and whilst I do not think any party is even close to perfect I feel that it behoves me to vote.I have to disagree.
That view means voting has gone from being a right to being a duty.
That's not what people fought for.
Some people even want to make it a legal duty.
Again not what was fought for.
As long as people are pressured in some way or other to vote then we no longer live in a democratic society.
It's already not very democratic as it is.
If people have to vote then politics and politicians and political parties will never have to change much.
If I could I'd campaign for the don't vote for me or anyone else party in an attempt to bring about a constitutional crisis.
It's the only way I can see of making changes to our political system.
It needs changes.
One change should be doubling maybe even more MP's salary which I've posted about somewhere else ... NHS thread I think.
So who can you vote for that will change what you want changing?I think that it is a moral duty. How can you complain about the system if you abstain? With rights come responsibilities. Politics govern every aspect of our lives whether working or retired, old or young. I abhor our current government and what it and others have done to my profession and that of others. I am financially worse off now than I was 5 years ago. My pay is performance related and there are many teachers who are not payed their due for unscrupulous reasons by people who should know better. I have seen good colleagues been made redundant and lose homes and livelihoods. There are teachers out there who are undeserving losing jobs because of unscrupulous people bringing competency proceedings against them with a frightening lack of evidence which no one (including the unions does anything about) and whilst I do not think any party is even close to perfect I feel that it behoves me to vote.
I would gladly see it enforced though I probably wouldn't like the results!
I am thoroughly enjoying debating this with you!
Pasha having a look around this place it would seem our common interests are wide ranging.
Music arts and crafts photography ... and maybe some politics.
The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.
Benjamin Disraeli
If you do not vote,there is no point discussing your political views.I don't vote.
I will turn up and make a mark or a statement but I won't vote.
To not vote is my political decision.If you do not vote,there is no point discussing your political views.
If all people did not vote, then what ?
Government without a mandate would have no choice but to rule by force.
I don't vote.
I will turn up and make a mark or a statement but I won't vote.
So you read the manifestos and vote for the best from a really bad bunch. By not voting, you are allowing Cameron and his cronies to remain in power!To not vote is my political decision.
Based on my political views at present.
Why is it not a valid decision?
Many people will vote without much understanding of what they are voting for.
That makes their political decision more valid than mine?
There is no individual or party who I can vote for but I should vote anyway?
I don't vote.
I will turn up and make a mark or a statement but I won't vote.
? Eh ?
A thread on politics here from a non voter
Strange one - to me
We all know what can happen with Politics and Religion debate(s)
Remember that - screaming Lord Sutch wasn't it ?I mentioned that earlier
Voting for The Monster raving loony party would be better than nothing
Replace him with more of the same under a different banner?So you read the manifestos and vote for the best from a really bad bunch. By not voting, you are allowing Cameron and his cronies to remain in power!
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