It isn't just nurses. It's GP's too. My non-diabetic friend recently had an HbA1c come back at 43. Her GP told her it is within acceptable levels and to go to Weight Watchers, lose weight, and keep away from fat.
Hiya Poohtiggy, I have to be honest and say I am not sure.You are in my neck of the woods but I've not heard of that course how does it differ from Expert which was the only one mentioned to me
Why Heinz Tomato Soup please? and surely grapes and pineapples worse nthan pears?I am type 2. I have never been offered a place. The only advice I have really been given by my GP and DN is to cut down on sweet things and to avoid Heinz tomato Soup and pears.
What is the "heidi" course please?I have been on the 'heidi' course in the Scottish highlands. It was a very good course and we were given a accucheck aviva expert meter which I have found invaluable for carb counting and insulin units.
Hiya Poohtiggy, I have to be honest and say I am not sure.
What I have found from the web is That SOCCER stands for Stockport Optimising Carbohydrate Counting, Education and Results- This is copied and pasted from the Stockport NHS page -
"The Stockport Diabetes Service welcomed the Mayor of Stockport Councillor Chris Murphy for the grand opening of SOCCER (Stockport Optimising Carbohydrate Counting, Education and Results), a course for type 1 diabetic patients.
The course includes the relationship between insulin and meals, importance of maintaining good glucose balance and how the person does this alongside their lifestyle.
The SOCCER programme is held one day per week over four weeks, with a six week follow-up session. The course is run by a diabetes specialist nurse, a diabetes dietician and a consultant diabetologist.
It is being offered to around 60 patients who are currently using the Stockport Diabetes Service, but hopes to expand in the future so that GPs can refer patients straight onto the programme.
The programme was launched with the support of an educational grant from Sanofi pharmaceutical company."
No courses to be had when I was diagnosed, early 1974. Told to go see my GP for paperwork that would explain carbs/insulin.
Not been given a chance at a course since they became available as I was seeing the wrong specialist, at the hospital, and they wouldn't transfer me to the right one. I kicked up a fuss and they discharged me after 39 years, local hospital has decided that they're putting diabetes care back to GPs after raising millions of pounds to open a diabetes care centre
I did the DESMOND course before Christmas, about six months after being diagnosed (it was the first date they were able to offer me). By that time I'd done a lot of research online, with the result that I didn't learn anything much from the course that I didn't already know. If I had been ignorant about T2, I dare say that I would have learned some useful stuff about the condition, but less about how to manage it. The one session that I did find useful, because I hadn't then been seen by a podiatrist, was the session about feet and footcare.
The session on diet was the usual Eat Well Plate stuff. We could argue for ever about whether it is good advice or bad to tell people to eat starchy carbs with every meal when they're diabetic but they did, at least, explain that carbs turn to glucose and that you need to exercise moderation in all things if you want to keep your levels under control. I said on here at the time that I thought it might be better to succeed in persuading people to modify their diet a bit rather than to completely fail to persuade them to make quite significant changes, but I thought they rather over-egged the "You don't have to make massive changes to your diet, just minor adjustments" schtick. When I asked if it was really sensible advice to eat carbohydrates with every meal, the Dietician went off on a bit of a tangent and started talking about how a high-protein diet might be bad if you had kidney damage. No doubt true, and of greater relevance to Diabetics than to some others because of the higher risk of kidney damage, but she never really answered my question.
So, I wouldn't describe it as useless but it was of limited value to me and, as already mentioned ad nauseam, the advice about diet is probably best described as debateable. On a practical, administrative note, apparently they always over book the courses because there is a high no-show rate. Inevitably, everyone turned up for the course I was on, with the result that the room allocated for the course was far too small and there wasn't really time for any discussions or meaningful response to questions (as above).
Calm down! Anyone would think they run these courses for our benefit!The particular course that I attended was done in two three-hour sessions, held over two mornings (consecutive Saturdays, as it happens, though I think they also run them during the week). There was a twenty-minute break for desperate caffeine addicts (i.e. me) to get a fix from a drink machine nearby. There was also the usual NHS comedy snack vending machine with crisps, sugary drinks and Mars Bars available, which I managed, manfully, to resist.
The other point, which I'd forgotten, is that the course is run at several venues in the area, including a major hospital ten minutes walk from Hay-Char Towers. The venue for my course, naturally, was ten miles away. I rang up to remonstrate, only to be told that if I wanted a course at the local hospital, I'd have to wait a further three months. At which point I gave up ....... :***:
Calm down! Anyone would think they run these courses for our benefit!
The particular course that I attended was done in two three-hour sessions, held over two mornings (consecutive Saturdays, as it happens, though I think they also run them during the week). There was a twenty-minute break for desperate caffeine addicts (i.e. me) to get a fix from a drink machine nearby. There was also the usual NHS comedy snack vending machine with crisps, sugary drinks and Mars Bars available, which I managed, manfully, to resist.
The other point, which I'd forgotten, is that the course is run at several venues in the area, including a major hospital ten minutes walk from Hay-Char Towers. The venue for my course, naturally, was ten miles away. I rang up to remonstrate, only to be told that if I wanted a course at the local hospital, I'd have to wait a further three months. At which point I gave up ....... :***:
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