pre-diabetes, fasting blood sugars.

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Hi All,

maybe I am on the wrong thread and should be on the diabetic thread.

What do you guys think. Am I pre D or am I diabetic?

The one and only blood test the Hba1c was 6.6

Fasting was 6.2

GGT was 13.1 after 2 hrs.

I guess I am insulin resistant which is probably the same as diabetic.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers to someone who loved his poatatoes
 
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@Potato_head

Hello Potato head and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 259,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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Ooops 7.9 on my TEE 2 ~~~ 3 hrs after brekkie (lost track of time ) but have been laid up with bad hip/ knee for 2 weeks now (No excersise )
. HbA1c test looming v soon. V worried now .
 

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I had my annual medical check up and my FBS was 5.7 and to be very honest, i was a bit scared. I hit the gym regularly so i was surprised at the FBS reading. However, i've decided to go easy on carbs and avoid late night food. So i guess its strict dieting and lifestyle adjustments going forward.

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Back to my Nexus 5.1 this morning , but 7.2 on my TEE2 Does anyone know if TEE2 or Nexus are more accurate ? Or do I need to calibrate using the calibration fluid ?:(
 
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I'm using the Tee2 - although have only been doing so for a couple of weeks. When you first set it up you should run the test calibrator thing before you start using it to make sure it is working ok.
 

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Ooops 7.9 on my TEE 2 ~~~ 3 hrs after brekkie (lost track of time ) but have been laid up with bad hip/ knee for 2 weeks now (No excersise )
. HbA1c test looming v soon. V worried now .
I'm a big believer in exercise. Ok so your hip/knee are healing, Arms??? What about small hand held weights or elastic bands. I had a broken foot last year. So I had one good foot and 2 good arms. I was able to do some one leg squats, and many arm exercises. Be creative. Keep moving the parts you can move without further injury to hip/knee.
 

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How many grammes carb in the skinny syrup?

YES exactly! I'm wondering this a LOT , I shall have to put my glasses on and read the ingredients plus check my carb counter book . Was 6.9 2 hrs after Breakfast .:happy: 5.7 2 hrs after lunch. Must B the Skinny syrup.
 

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I'm a big believer in exercise. Ok so your hip/knee are healing, Arms??? What about small hand held weights or elastic bands. I had a broken foot last year. So I had one good foot and 2 good arms. I was able to do some one leg squats, and many arm exercises. Be creative. Keep moving the parts you can move without further injury to hip/knee.
Hi and Thanks for that ~ I should tell you I usually go to the gym even if arms only , but I have been wracked with back and hip pain every time I make a 'wrong' move . Have been told it's a 'trapped nerve ' , I'm getting back 2 gym asap . Maybe even try home excercises. Thanks From PreDiet
 

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Back to my Nexus 5.1 this morning , but 7.2 on my TEE2 Does anyone know if TEE2 or Nexus are more accurate ? Or do I need to calibrate using the calibration fluid ?:(
The control solution doesn't calibrate anything, it is just supposed to show if there is something wrong with the strips or the machine. Jenny Ruhl says that the margin on the test strips is so large, they are useless, and that over many years of testing she has never known a test strip show a up fault, even in batches of strips that were manifestly extremely faulty. So she says, if you fund your own strips and cost is a concern, don't waste one on trying the control solution.

As regards your query, I regularly use the TEE2 and recommend it, but recently I have had a lot of readings that are puzzling to say the least. For example yesterday I got a pre-prandial 6.5, retest 5.5. Today post-prandial 6.1, retest 5.1. On 30th December fasting 7.5, retest 5.4, retest 5.9. Yes, I know there is an acknowledged margin of error but IMO this much makes the test results almost useless. In the case of the pre-prandial test, if I believed the 6.5 I would postpone eating and go for a 15 minute walk in the hopes of bringing the reading down, whereas if I believed the 5.5 I would go ahead and eat.

I certainly don't want to discourage you from testing, and I intend to go on testing myself, but I do find these discrepancies de-stabilising. I have bought a Code Free meter, but I fear I will find the same dodgy numbers there. I'd be interested to hear about other people's testing experiences. But please don't tell me I must have not washed my hands correctly!
 

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5.1 on my Nexus :) but same drop of blood on my Tee2 7.4 ( the glucose test fluid came out 8.5 from the blue topped bottle / and the green bottle 12.3 on the TEE 2 ) :bookworm: Confusion ( But I bought the TEE2 second hand on Ebay:sorry:)
 
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The control solution doesn't calibrate anything, it is just supposed to show if there is something wrong with the strips or the machine. Jenny Ruhl says that the margin on the test strips is so large, they are useless, and that over many years of testing she has never known a test strip show a up fault, even in batches of strips that were manifestly extremely faulty. So she says, if you fund your own strips and cost is a concern, don't waste one on trying the control solution.

As regards your query, I regularly use the TEE2 and recommend it, but recently I have had a lot of readings that are puzzling to say the least. For example yesterday I got a pre-prandial 6.5, retest 5.5. Today post-prandial 6.1, retest 5.1. On 30th December fasting 7.5, retest 5.4, retest 5.9. Yes, I know there is an acknowledged margin of error but IMO this much makes the test results almost useless. In the case of the pre-prandial test, if I believed the 6.5 I would postpone eating and go for a 15 minute walk in the hopes of bringing the reading down, whereas if I believed the 5.5 I would go ahead and eat.

I certainly don't want to discourage you from testing, and I intend to go on testing myself, but I do find these discrepancies de-stabilising. I have bought a Code Free meter, but I fear I will find the same dodgy numbers there. I'd be interested to hear about other people's testing experiences. But please don't tell me I must have not washed my hands correctly!


Ha ha , it shouldn't matter about washed hands , surely it's the blood , I tested the TEE 2 , and you can see below (or on my Tues morn post ), I think I'll stick to my Nexus even though it is more cumbersome . I get my yearly Hba1C soon , so will know a result from that , that's got to be accurate! . Thanks very much for the info , I have the Nexus on subscription so maybe if the Hba1C is good I'll cancel it . PreDiet ( With clean hands LOL)
 

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5.1 on my Nexus :) but same drop of blood on my Tee2 7.4 ( the glucose test fluid came out 8.5 from the blue topped bottle / and the green bottle 12.3 on the TEE 2 ) :bookworm: Confusion ( But I bought the TEE2 second hand on Ebay:sorry:)
Firstly, you can get a brand new TEE2 meter FREE from
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
Secondly, I have for quite a while had problems with very variable readings on my TEE2 meter. From the same drop of blood I might get eg 6.7, 4.9, 5.3. Obviously this meant I might almost as well not have tested. Yesterday I finally managed to talk to the adviser from TEE2. She told me that using the SAME drop of blood invalidates the results. If one wants to retest one has to do a new pinprick. Secondly, she said it is important to hold the machine vertically for touching the strip to the drop of blood. I have not yet tried multiple tests using her method but I will when I have more strips available (and feel in the mood!) However I am religiously holding the machine dead upright when testing.

In my disillusion I have bought a Codefree meter, so I can also compare this with the TEE2. I assume the same directions apply. I'd be very interested to hear how you get on if you do some multiple tests on different drops of blood.
 
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