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Pre insulin tablets/injections:

donnellysdogs

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"Dietary treatment of diabetes mellitus in the pre-insulin era (1914-1922).

AuthorsWestman EC, et al. Show all Journal
Perspect Biol Med. 2006 Winter;49(1):77-83.

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Before the discovery of insulin, one of the most common dietary treatments of diabetes mellitus was a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet. A review of Frederick M. Allen's case histories shows that a 70% fat, 8% carbohydrate diet could eliminate glycosuria among hospitalized patients. A reconsideration of the role of the high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet for the treatment of diabetes mellitus is in order.

PMID 16489278 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]"

I find it fascinating that treatment and recommendations for diabetics so vastly changed in 100 years.

It is 100 years since Banting and Allen etc started looking at ways to keep diabetics alive.. Pre insulin discovery. Since the historic insulin discovery and the awful introduction of ready meals and fast food it appears that the nhsand worldwide health organisations have just ignored the regimes that kept so many people alive..

There is a hospital somewhere on the internet that lists the foods and whiskey that newly diagnosed patients.. Kids from 3 years upward were given.. Can't find it though.

Think all our health organisations and GP's and Consultants should read up more on the background of pre insulin...



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Going on from this starter of a topic-

There was an article in the "nutrition and metabolism" of an Accord study that concludes the following:

"ConclusionThe inattention to potent dietary therapy in all recent major diabetes studies, including the recent ACCORD trial, should not lead us to forget about carbohydrate- restriction as a means to achieve weight loss and glycemic control without hypoglycemia. We urgently need control- led studies comparing the newer "higher-carbohydrate diet with or without medication" approach to the earlier "carbohydrate-restricted diet without medication" approach for type 2 diabetes mellitus. One of the impor- tant advantages of carbohydrate-restriction is that there is no risk of hypoglycemia if medications are not used. We believe that carbohydrate-restriction has come of age for the treatment of obesity and diabetes mellitus and should be urgently translated from clinical practice to intensive testing in studies relating to mechanism, health services research, and public health."

I wonder whether this was ever given an opportunity for intensive testing?


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I'm not sure we need intensive testing of low-carb diets as the 'fashionable' high-carb/low-fat diet hasn't been tested either and/or the data manipulated to make it look good by those with vested interests. Well on second thoughts, perhaps the HCLF has been tested by the population at large and the result has been obesity.
 
The starvation diet only prolonged the inevitable for those who were type 1, thank goodness for the discovery of insulin.

Often think if I could go back for just one moment in time it would be when Leonard Thompson was first injected with insulin by Banting & Best, the relieve for his parents must have been overwhelming.
 
I think the high carb diet has been well and truly tested.

The history side of diabetes is fascinating. How people were kept alive with diabetes by starving them!! Just goes to prove that the yearning to live is strong. However, some places actually locked the patients away as they found relatives sneaked in food....

The story is staggering, I guess in a hundred years time people will be saying the same sort of things about us with pumps and cgm's etc...


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I think the high carb diet has been well and truly tested.

The history side of diabetes is fascinating. How people were kept alive with diabetes by starving them!! Just goes to prove that the yearning to live is strong. However, some places actually locked the patients away as they found relatives sneaked in food....

The story is staggering, I guess in a hundred years time people will be saying the same sort of things about us with pumps and cgm's etc...

Possibly DD, what they will make of them is anyone's guess :)
 
I'd rather think that a cure would have been found and they will think back marvelling at how we managed our diabetes pre cure!!

Bit cynical about a cure tho' as drug companies have too much income from the populations increasing need for medication for diabetes..


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