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Prepare to be afraid ...

I agree,I'm not quite ready to become a Guinea Pig for a new 'Cure all' wonder pill either until it's been well time tested and proven that the benefits FAR outweigh any side affects,however small.
 
Far from being afraid, I would consider it if it reduced the risk of a heart attack or stroke.
 
From what I can make out, it contains aspirin (I taker a low dose anyway because it seemed a good idea!), simvastatin which I take anyway (low dose, doesn't seem to affect me adversely at all) and a few different types of BP lowering meds. Don't need them because I was 109/69 I think last check up, so, pretty good. Otherwise, it wouldn't bother me personally to take the pill, although I can understand those who don't want to take statins. As metformin is supposed to be fantastic for all, not just diabetics, I wonder why that couldn't be part of the new pill. Perhaps I'll patent wonder pill mark 2! :thumbup:
 
The bit that concerns me the most is the trial consisted on 84 people, so wonder what the split was for the 'pill' and the 'placebo pill' was, if it was a 50% split, then they basically dishing out 'pill's' based on 42 people taken it :shock:

How many medical drugs have 'seemed' to be the bee's knee's and safe until it was rolled out to the masses! And when 10,000 plus people started to take it... A whole different story was happened!

I think if it's offered I might end to the back of the cue!
 
Doesn't matter
They can't MAKE you take it
Hana
 
hanadr said:
Doesn't matter
They can't MAKE you take it
Hana
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That was my thought, although I don't want to take statins at all. I do take them but only because my GP whom I trust implicitly seems so adamant I need them. He has changed me from Simvastatin to Atorvastatin 10mg a day, as a compromise. If it wasn't for the fact I do trust him so much, I would get the script filled and throw the pills away. You can't be forced to take anything you don't want!
 
If you don't want to take the tablets, don't put the prescription into the chemist! Better than wasting money throwing tablets away
 
jopar said:
If you don't want to take the tablets, don't put the prescription into the chemist! Better than wasting money throwing tablets away
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I take so many tablets it would be highly unlikely the Statins would be on a script on their own. However, I prefer to work with my GP he insists I have Statins, so against my own feelings I do take them!
 
Defren said:
hanadr said:
Doesn't matter
They can't MAKE you take it
Hana
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That was my thought, although I don't want to take statins at all. I do take them but only because my GP whom I trust implicitly seems so adamant I need them. He has changed me from Simvastatin to Atorvastatin 10mg a day, as a compromise. If it wasn't for the fact I do trust him so much, I would get the script filled and throw the pills away. You can't be forced to take anything you don't want!
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I was put straight on to simvastatin {40 mg} at diagnosis because that was the norm. My cholesterol has always been fine .

That means i have been aking them for 5 years. I was fine until a few months ago when I began suffering from pain in the arms and shoulders and bad cramps in my calves and feet. I told the dr at my annual review 2 months ago and she put me on a low dose {10mg} of pravastin. The arm pain {which i had been blaming on having to hold a magnifying glass to read } immediately went but the leg pains got worse. I stopped taking them for a week and immediately the cramps and pain stopped.
As my total colesterol has risen a bit {HDLS} she wans to give me Ezetimibe,

At least with single pills it is possible to stop taking them to check side effects The "parrot pill " might prove problematic because it ight be difficult to isolate one component which was causeing side effects and different components might begin to cause problems at different times and the whole regime would have to be rethought. But - swings and roundabouts i suppose.

The ubiquitous metformin too? When I was first given it I felt so ill , suffered lack of coordination dizziness etc . It even affected my speech. I almost felt that I had suffered a stroke. I can remeber walking around like a zombie , thinking to myself that ther migh be people driving and even piloting planes under the influence of this stuff! :lol:
 
Oh come on. A wonder pill containing statins, aspirin, BP lowering drugs and metformin all washed down with a bottle of Rioja would cure anything! :D
 
I stopped taking my statins about 6 weeks ago, I want to wait and see what this diet does for my cholesterol levels if they are good I see no point in them, when the metformin is supposed to be just as good. and I also take BP tablets, but my BP has gone through the floor lately so I am going to ask doctor if I can stop those as well, Just got to get off the potion now that stops me turning into werewolf and howling at the moon it can be so embarrassing at party's, :lol: :lol:
 
Simvastatin will make it unacceptable to up 10% ?? of the population. A trial drugging people not at risk to reduce such a low risk seems simply to be based on BP meds & statins to do what they are known to do. I've seen spread sheet calculations & computer predictions before. If the inventor considers those likely to benefit to be 10% of his son's estimate then who do we trust - & how many likely to suffer, not realising the side effects?

Sorry, but I am prepared to take medication for specific conditions, but not for statistical risks.
 
Grazer said:
Oh come on. A wonder pill containing statins, aspirin, BP lowering drugs and metformin all washed down with a bottle of Rioja would cure anything! :D
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I'll just go for the washing down part ,thanks! Is not another name for sheep-dip is it?
 
Prediciting the prevention of up to 200,000 deaths is statistically "interesting".
Likewise the prediction of the saving of up to 94,000 lives a year.
One must assume that this relates to apparently healthy people who are not on any form of medication for any of the conditions this pill is intended to treat and who further won't go onto medication ever (or at least not until irreperable damage has been done).

http://www.agediscrimination.info/statistics/Pages/Statistics.aspx has all sorts of interesting/scary facts.
Before I even got to the number of people over 50 I saw that about 30% of people born today have the chance of living to 100. Strange wording - not "there is a chance that 30% of people born today will live to be 100".

Ah, well...

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Over 21 million of the population are aged 50 years and over.
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21 million at a few hundred pounds a year is a not insignificant bit of change.
Does anyone else smell a drug company trying to upsell products to new consumers who were previously outside their target market - the apparently healthy undiagnosed ones who don't feel the need to visit a doctor or take medication?

A bit like the motivation suggested in "Men who made us fat" - the only way to provide year on year growth in a maturing market is to stimulate extra consumption per head of population.

Oh, and Simvastatin turns me into a zombie.
But then again I am not a target for this medication as I am already on statins and my blood pressure is pretty good up to now.

Cheers

LGC
 
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