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greener

greener

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hello!

I am quite disappointed by NHS service. They are very slow and they do the job with interns which results in very low quality of healthcare.

Is there a service I can pay and have unlimited access to quality doctors 24h without waiting too long etc?
Also, in case there is a need for an operation or other service, they will pay for it?
Also, in case there is some new diagnosis they will compensate for that? I think that's insurance

I have no idea about my options, any hint?

thanks!
 
You have already been advised that you can opt for private medical cover at your own expense. It is now for you to contact private healthcare companies to get quotes for cover. Google will assist in finding them if you put in "private healthcare uk". A search of this site produced: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/private-healthcare/private-diabetes-healthcare.html which should also help.

I hope that this has answered your question again this time.
 
thanks but I need realy people's opinion on this matter, real experiences, do you realize that forums are for that reason? otherwise there would be no forums and only google

I didn't get sensible answers in my previous thread, that's why I am asking again

I need real experiences from people who have researched the market and have health issues and their opinions and experiences
 
You didn't get sensible answers? Best do your own research then.
 
I didn't get specific answers, from people who have researched the market and have own experience
 
There is NO service where you have 24 hour access to a doctor if you mean one to drop everything and see you immediately..in an emergency situation, statistics show that despite having to wait, NHS A&E is still the quickest. Where do you think these doctors work, and where do you think they operate? If there is a need for an operation...the ONLY place you won't have to pay is the NHS. You can certainly pay some shower of bandits to insure you so they can then argue over whether or not to pay out (or just keep your money if you never need them). You say they do the job with interns...not my experience at all. I see you are pre-diabetic..what kinds of operations are you expecting? We may have criticism of the NHS (mostly in relation to admin and management issues or perhaps a slightly behind the most immediately up to date info...as they err on the side of caution) but they are still an incredible service...and as for private doctors (ie. not those who work for the NHS anyway..the majority), there are good plumbers and bad plumbers...so by all means waste your money and take your chances...but I suggest you rely on the largest health care provider we have...unless you are a millionaire or can hold a doctor at gunpoint in your garden shed. What exactly is your fear?
 
pleinster said:
There is NO service where you have 24 hour access to a doctor if you mean one to drop everything and see you immediately..in an emergency situation, statistics show that despite having to wait, NHS A&E is still the quickest. Where do you think these doctors work, and where do you think they operate? If there is a need for an operation...the ONLY place you won't have to pay is the NHS. You can certainly pay some shower of bandits to insure you so they can then argue over whether or not to pay out (or just keep your money if you never need them). You say they do the job with interns...not my experience at all. I see you are pre-diabetic..what kinds of operations are you expecting? We may have criticism of the NHS (mostly in relation to admin and management issues or perhaps a slightly behind the most immediately up to date info...as they err on the side of caution) but they are still an incredible service...and as for private doctors (ie. not those who work for the NHS anyway..the majority), there are good plumbers and bad plumbers...so by all means waste your money and take your chances...but I suggest you rely on the largest health care provider we have...unless you are a millionaire or can hold a doctor at gunpoint in your garden shed. What exactly is your fear?
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Was interesting reading Dr Gabriel Weston's comments on this subject at the Daily Mail site:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...Britain-s-female-doctors-reveal-NEVER-do.html

Gabriel Weston, ear, nose and throat surgeon, author of the award-winning Direct Red: A Surgeon's Story and a presenter of Trust Me, I'm A Doctor.

People often think that if they want to find a really good doctor, they need to go to Harley Street.

But anybody can set up on Harley Street and call themselves a consultant, even if they weren't a consultant in the NHS.

All you need is to be able to pay the rent for your office and you can simply put your name over the door.

If I was going to seek medical treatment in the private sector, I would never choose a doctor who wasn't running an NHS clinic, too.

It's so competitive - only the best get the NHS jobs. Seeing a consultant who is operating a private and NHS practice is an insurance system for yourself.

Often, doctors operating only in the private sector can be doctors who haven't succeeded in the NHS. Yet everybody thinks that because they are 'consulting' on Harley Street they are better than the rest.

But in reality, you have no real idea about their skill. It's like a black market.
 
In a world where everyone is out to make a buck...why trust someone with your health when there are seriously skilled professionals available who choose to work in the NHS?
 
To put it bluntly @greener, if you go to the private sector, you will be 5x as much for an NHS doctor who will see you when they run their clinics. There are few Endocrinologists working solely outside the NHS and more importantly, in the discussions I've had with various private insurance companies, none were willing to provide cover for NHS available services simply because things couldn't be done in a time frame that I was happy with on the NHS.

If you want to look at this in the UK, you will need a doctor to say there is a clinical need for something and then prove that the NHS won't give it to you before insurance will look at it.
 
My experience of private health care and T2 diabetes is they will pay until point of diagnosis but not for any treatment etc after diagnosis that is directly connected to diabetes.
 
pleinster said:
There is NO service where you have 24 hour access to a doctor if you mean one to drop everything and see you immediately..in an emergency situation, statistics show that despite having to wait, NHS A&E is still the quickest. Where do you think these doctors work, and where do you think they operate? If there is a need for an operation...the ONLY place you won't have to pay is the NHS. You can certainly pay some shower of bandits to insure you so they can then argue over whether or not to pay out (or just keep your money if you never need them). You say they do the job with interns...not my experience at all. I see you are pre-diabetic..what kinds of operations are you expecting? We may have criticism of the NHS (mostly in relation to admin and management issues or perhaps a slightly behind the most immediately up to date info...as they err on the side of caution) but they are still an incredible service...and as for private doctors (ie. not those who work for the NHS anyway..the majority), there are good plumbers and bad plumbers...so by all means waste your money and take your chances...but I suggest you rely on the largest health care provider we have...unless you are a millionaire or can hold a doctor at gunpoint in your garden shed. What exactly is your fear?
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Lol. The closest thing I ever got to a "doctor dropping everything" was about 16? Years ago, South India when my wife & I were in a bad way with "deli belly".. We divided to hold up in a comfortable hotel on the south coast till the sickness blew over. But then my wife took a turn for the worst. To be honest I was just about holding it together myself..
The only break I got from the porcelain throne myself was holding a bucket for my wife to projectile vomit into..

Anyhow, a doctor was called out (with a driver.) we were both seen in the room for well over ah hour. My wife was treated then the doctor turned to me.. (Just to add the Doc's English was spot on.) Everthing administersed was written down just incase it was needed in the UK regarding reference for further treatment. The doc sent a "boy" out on a bike for the prescription too!
From memory the whole thing didn't cost no more than a UK prescription charge.

& although a little tender from the experience. We were both able to travel within 48 hours to Madras..

Even though we took out travel insurance covering any medical. We didn't bother claiming when we got home.
I couldn't fault this Indian doc. Apart from her comment that I "looked so young to be a diabetic." ;)

That's my brief experience with private health care..:D
 
greener said:
thanks but I need realy people's opinion on this matter, real experiences, do you realize that forums are for that reason? otherwise there would be no forums and only google

I didn't get sensible answers in my previous thread, that's why I am asking again

I need real experiences from people who have researched the market and have health issues and their opinions and experiences
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With respect, I believe I gave you feedback on my experience, working with a Private Medical Insurance provider, within pricing and underwriting areas, and the actual experience as a PMI client, patient and colleague of sourcing private medical care, insured or otherwise.

The factual reality, in UK, is that Joe Public can pretty much access anything he wants, provided his pockets are deep enough to fund the costs - private GP, Consultants, tests and so on. They all have a cost and a price.

Unfortunately, I don't believe what you would actually like to achieve exists, without investing a lot of your pocket money to achieve it.

I would be very happy for you to prove me wrong, but the old adage of "pay peanuts, you get monkeys" is often, sadly true.

Whilst it is significantly imperfect, our NHS is usually there for us when the chips are down. It may lack finesse, or set several hoops for us to jump through, to gain certain types of access, but bearing in mind what we pay, it's great value.

What sort of public healthcare did you receive in your home country, and what funding arrangements were you required to participate in?
 
The original poster has claimed to be both type 2 and prediabetic. I've asked a few times for clarification but so far nothing.

Given the nature of past questions, and his responses to those that take time to answer, I can only come to the conclusion that he gets bored and likes to have a little entertainment on the Internet.
 
ladybird64 said:
The original poster has claimed to be both type 2 and prediabetic. I've asked a few times for clarification but so far nothing.

Given the nature of past questions, and his responses to those that take time to answer, I can only come to the conclusion that he gets bored and likes to have a little entertainment on the Internet.
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"Alexander the Great" (reference to the OP's current profile picture.)
Has been "busted" centuries ago... ;)
 
Dear Sirs,
I was very keen to read and embrace your replies, but my today's experience proved you wrong.

I visited the local university hospital for a friend who had a fall. It took us 3 hours to wait to be seen. We were NOT seen by a real doctor, but instead a clueless nurse. Then we waiting another 2h for x-rays. Eventually after 6h in total, we were told the hilarious "it may be a fracture, but also it may not be". With surprise we were advised that we should book a regular appointment with orthopaedics (I really wonder, isn't to be seen by orthopaedics the reason that we visited the hospital in AE in the first place?) after at least 1 week. We were given a piece of cloth as sling and guided to the exit.

Is this the NHS you are altogether proud of? I struggle to find a reason to praise NHS like you.
 
greener said:
Dear Sirs,
I was very keen to read and embrace your replies, but my today's experience proved you wrong.

I visited the local university hospital for a friend who had a fall. It took us 3 hours to wait to be seen. We were NOT seen by a real doctor, but instead a clueless nurse. Then we waiting another 2h for x-rays. Eventually after 6h in total, we were told the hilarious "it may be a fracture, but also it may not be". With surprise we were advised that we should book a regular appointment with orthopaedics (I really wonder, isn't to be seen by orthopaedics the reason that we visited the hospital in AE in the first place?) after at least 1 week. We were given a piece of cloth as sling and guided to the exit.

Is this the NHS you are altogether proud of? I struggle to find a reason to praise NHS like you.
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Nice desperate try on what is in essence a "troll pitch"..

My personal experience today in an eye unit positively differs from your "friends" after a routine check. I was treated within half an hour..
 
I'm a Sir!!I've always wanted to hold a prestigious title!! I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it!:D

PS. Greener, go private. I'm sure they would love to relieve you of your money - problem solved.:D
 
greener said:
Dear Sirs,
I was very keen to read and embrace your replies, but my today's experience proved you wrong.

I visited the local university hospital for a friend who had a fall. It took us 3 hours to wait to be seen. We were NOT seen by a real doctor, but instead a clueless nurse. Then we waiting another 2h for x-rays. Eventually after 6h in total, we were told the hilarious "it may be a fracture, but also it may not be". With surprise we were advised that we should book a regular appointment with orthopaedics (I really wonder, isn't to be seen by orthopaedics the reason that we visited the hospital in AE in the first place?) after at least 1 week. We were given a piece of cloth as sling and guided to the exit.

Is this the NHS you are altogether proud of? I struggle to find a reason to praise NHS like you.
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If it was a major break that could be seen on xray, your "friend" would've been dealt with there and then. It's routine for a fracture or minor break to be sent onto orthopedics.
You didn't go to A&E to see orthopedics, you went to A&E to have your "friend" triaged. And the nurse on duty decided your "friend" was not in need of emergency care so advised them to book an appointment.

I'm **** proud of our NHS and all of it's staff. Despite constant government cutbacks, staff shortages and many, many moronic patients; the staff are always smiling, always willing to help. And each and every time I've been to hospital, there has always been someone willing to go that extra mile.

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I think our friend is going for his evening fishing session again;)
 
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