Protein and blood sugar

[Brendon.Dean]

If I fast > 14 hours I start to develop ketones which increases my insulin resistance. What proof is there that a 44 hour fast helps T1Ds?

Ketones do not increase or cause insulin resistance; ketones are energy the brain uses.

There is insurmountable proof that fasting reduces insulin resistance for not just people with auto immune diseases but every kind of person. Check out Dr Fungs book on fasting, he cites tons of information and relays the start of the Joslin Foundation and there early attempts on fasting to prolong longevity of ones life. He cites many other studies and information which lay the foundation for fasting.

 

[Brendon.Dean]

What about carb reduction rather than calorie restriction? And I had read that up to 50% of protein is converted to glucose.

I'm trying to eliminate dairy and nuts before going even lower carb, but that's a good next step.

 

[Brendon.Dean]

Is it worth trialling soy milk instead of dairy or use A2 protein dairy to see if either have the same effect as A1 protein dairy?

Honestly I don't care for it, I don't "need" that stuff I think there are plenty of other things I can replace my dairy with like more avocado, bit more coconut oil and some more red meat or chicken

You do have some good ideas though I must say!

 

[kitedoc]

I'm actually trying to lose some more body fat, I believe around 10lbs of fat but I lift just as if I were trying to put on muscle mass so I push myself to failure in the gym.

Can you explain further physiological insulin resistance? I believe my basal is in check because during several 44 hour fasts my basal held my blood sugars in my range for the first 24 hours before my insulin resistance decreased and I actually had to reduce insulin to keep from going low.

What you are saying makes sense to me in terms of eating too much at one sitting which does I think exactly what you are saying. One problem I have is, my body is extraordinarily hungry from the exercise I do and wants more food. The moment in time I switched to more frequent and intense exercise I noticed I began having issues because I had to increase the amount of food I ate.

I can go back to trying 2 meals again and focus more on what's happening this time.

Really appreciate the feedback, thank you.

From what others say, on a low carb high fat diet they often feel less hungry because of the fat intake and ? because the burning of fat causes ketosis which has a moderating effect on hunger (you can feel nauseated until your body adapts). I know that eating fat to lose weight sounds daft but it seems to work? Also I have read that on prolonged fasts vitamin deficiencies can develop, thiamine deficiency being the first to appear. So I hope Dr Fung has that covered.

 

[kitedoc]

I've tried the extended bolus feature but it acts similar to the basal setting in terms of it ticks in insulin every 5 minutes for example over the time period I set and it doesn't provide a stable solution.

Strange, on my pump it boluses in a % of the total bolus pre meal then a bolus of the residual % at the stipulated delay of say, 2 hours.

 

[kitedoc]

Honestly I don't care for it, I don't "need" that stuff I think there are plenty of other things I can replace my dairy with like more avocado, bit more coconut oil and some more red meat or chicken

You do have some good ideas though I must say!

But to find out if it might be say, A1 milk protein, could be useful.

 

[Brendon.Dean]

Strange, on my pump it boluses in a % of the total bolus pre meal then a bolus of the residual % at the stipulated delay of say, 2 hours.

It can do % and units but the extended delay doesn't work the way I want. It will distribute the insulin over a certain time frame which is useless because I could just increase basal and have the same result.

 

[kitedoc]

It can do % and units but the extended delay doesn't work the way I want. It will distribute the insulin over a certain time frame which is useless because I could just increase basal and have the same result.

Interesting. I would have thought 2 boluses would give a different result to one bolus and one increased basal rate. ? Perhaps the long glucose 'tail' of protein converted to glucose has something to do with it?

 

[LooperCat]

Would the extended bolus feature on the pump be an alternative way to time the part of the bolus to deal with the protein without having to remember to bolus an hour after the first bolus?

I use the extended bolus feature now, the alarms were when I was still on injections