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Bomber1956

Bomber1956

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What do people eat, buy or make, for those 'sweet' moments after a nice dinner....before diabetes T1 diagnosis in 2021, I used to like ice cream, stuff like that but now.... nothing really. I'm 67 this year so any tips for an old dog would be appreciated....
 
The same as you had before your diagnosis and learn how to bolus your insulin for it.
We do not have a carb intolerance like people with type 2 diabetes. We have a lack of insulin.
So we can eat carbs and inject insulin.

If you want, you could try sugar free jelly but I would say it is an acquired taste.
You can also get sugar free ice cream. I would put that in the same bracket as the jelly.

My advice is to enjoy your full fat normal ice cream.
And stop referring to yourself as "old" - you are a young chicken at 67.
 
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The same as you had before your diagnosis and learn how to bolus your insulin for it.
We do not have a carb intolerance like people with type 2 diabetes. We have a lack of insulin.
So we can eat carbs and inject insulin.

If you want, you could try sugar free jelly but I would say it is an acquired taste.
You can also get sugar free ice cream. I would put that in the same bracket as the jelly.

My advice is to enjoy your full fat normal ice cream.
And stop referring to yourself as "old" - you are a young chicken at 67.
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Ta ...not really got the confidence yet to start adjusting insulin dose but I suppose I'll have to learn. I have 14 in the morning and 14 in the evening. Tbh it's still very new to me ....
 
You can find lots of low carb cake recipes if you search for keto cake, most are made with ground almonds (they usually state almond flour but that is more expensive). Some recipes are complicated, but plenty of simple ones.
I think that the carbs in a single piece should be low enough that you don't need to adjust your insulin? (but check this with a T!)
 
Bomber1956 said:
Ta ...not really got the confidence yet to start adjusting insulin dose but I suppose I'll have to learn. I have 14 in the morning and 14 in the evening. Tbh it's still very new to me ....
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What insulin are you on?
If you have Type 1, you should have two different types of insulin - basal which is a slow acting background insulin taken once or twice a day and bolus a fast acting insulin taken when you eat carbs. This is often called MDI or basal/bolus and is highly flexible because you can eat what you want when you want (within reason) and adjust your dose accordingly.
The old fashioned approach was a mixed insulin which was mostly the slow acting but included some fast acting and was taken as a fixed dose which required you to eat a fixed amount of carbs at fixed times. In other words, highly inflexible.

If you are taking this fixed dose mixed insulin, I strongly recommend requesting the MDI approach. There is no reason to miss out on ice cream.
A few people with Type 1 will eat low carb meals (and follow low carb cake recipes which substitute flour and sugar) in order to minimise insulin. The logic is that with lower insulin doses, you make smaller mistakes. I found this approach more challenging because, in the absence of carbs, our body breaks down protein which is more complex to calculate insulin dose for.
 
If I fancy some afters I generally have creme fraiche with a few berries and a little grated dark chocolate. Or Greek yogurt with a seed and nut mix I make up myself and a squirt of agave nectar if I’m being naughty.

I should stress I’m pre diabetic and reducing carbs and sugar to try to avoid becoming type 2 so probably have a little more leeway.
 
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What insulin are you on?
If you have Type 1, you should have two different types of insulin - basal which is a slow acting background insulin taken once or twice a day and bolus a fast acting insulin taken when you eat carbs. This is often called MDI or basal/bolus and is highly flexible because you can eat what you want when you want (within reason) and adjust your dose accordingly.
The old fashioned approach was a mixed insulin which was mostly the slow acting but included some fast acting and was taken as a fixed dose which required you to eat a fixed amount of carbs at fixed times. In other words, highly inflexible.

If you are taking this fixed dose mixed insulin, I strongly recommend requesting the MDI approach. There is no reason to miss out on ice cream.
A few people with Type 1 will eat low carb meals (and follow low carb cake recipes which substitute flour and sugar) in order to minimise insulin. The logic is that with lower insulin doses, you make smaller mistakes. I found this approach more challenging because, in the absence of carbs, our body breaks down protein which is more complex to calculate insulin dose for.
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I have type 1 and have novomix 30 twice a day with a 500mg Metformin tab. That's it....don't even know what basal or bolus is....!
 
Bomber1956 said:
I have type 1 and have novomix 30 twice a day with a 500mg Metformin tab. That's it....don't even know what basal or bolus is....!
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I recommend asking to modernise your insulin.
Novomix has a mix of slow acting and fast acting insulin.
It requires you to eat at the asme time every day and to eat the same amount of carbs.
You have no flexibility to miss breakfast orhave a later lunch or have omelette one day and pizza he next (if you fancy).
It does not take into consideration any change in your insulin needs due to illness or stress or exercise.

Basal insulin s slow acting insulin that provides the "base" needs throughout the day.
Bolus is fast acting insulin that works with the food you eat or corrects a high level.
If you don't have breakfast, you don't need the bolus insulin.
If you have an omelette, you dose less insulin than if you have pizza.
If you don't get around to eating your dinner until 9 o'clock, that's fine: you take your bolus when you eat.
If you have a really stressful meeting that pushes your levels up, you correct with some additional bolus.
If you are ill and need more background insulin, you can do so without needing to eat more.
And, if you want pudding, you can have your ice cream ... with a little extra bolus.
You can even have an ice cream cone on a hot afternoon.

The basal - bolus regime requires more effort because you have to calculate your insulin dose and inject more often (at least once per meal and one extra).
But, most of us feel the flexibility it brings is worth it.
When I was first diagnosed, twenty years ago, I was taking fixed doses of mixed insulin like you and it really did not suit my lifestyle. My blood sugar levels were all over the place and I was having to eat when I didn't want to. I lasted on that for less than 6 months ago and been so much happier since.
 
Look up ‘keto mason jar ice cream’ on YouTube it’s delicious and doesn’t spike my blood glucose at all. Also Ketofocus on YouTube has lots of low carb desserts, check her out
 
In Response said:
What insulin are you on?
If you have Type 1, you should have two different types of insulin - basal which is a slow acting background insulin taken once or twice a day and bolus a fast acting insulin taken when you eat carbs. This is often called MDI or basal/bolus and is highly flexible because you can eat what you want when you want (within reason) and adjust your dose accordingly.
The old fashioned approach was a mixed insulin which was mostly the slow acting but included some fast acting and was taken as a fixed dose which required you to eat a fixed amount of carbs at fixed times. In other words, highly inflexible.

If you are taking this fixed dose mixed insulin, I strongly recommend requesting the MDI approach. There is no reason to miss out on ice cream.eye
A few people with Type 1 will eat low carb meals (and follow low carb cake recipes which substitute flour and sugar) in order to minimise insulin. The logic is that with lower insulin doses, you make smaller mistakes. I found this approach more challenging because, in the absence of carbs, our body breaks down protein which is more complex to calculate insulin dose for.
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Blimey....two types of insulin....I'm having enough bother understanding one....thanks though
 
Bomber1956 said:
Blimey....two types of insulin....I'm having enough bother understanding one....thanks though
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I was on one type for my first year and found it incredibly frustrating and inflexible.
I find two types much easier to understand and adapt to my life rather that having to adapt your life to your insulin.
The two types have a clear purpose which I can adjust as I need it. Having one type means I cannot adjust the timings and ratios which drove me insane,

That said, twenty years later, I continue to learn more about diabetes and how to manage it for myself: now I only use one type of insulin but I use it in a pump so it takes the role of both bolus and basal.

Take care, take time and learn along the way.
 
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I was on one type for my first year and found it incredibly frustrating and inflexible.
I find two types much easier to understand and adapt to my life rather that having to adapt your life to your insulin.
The two types have a clear purpose which I can adjust as I need it. Having one type means I cannot adjust the timings and ratios which drove me insane,

That said, twenty years later, I continue to learn more about diabetes and how to manage it for myself: now I only use one type of insulin but I use it in a pump so it takes the role of both bolus and basal.

Take care, take time and learn along the way.
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Thanks for reply....it's a bloody weird condition alright, and the internet is probably the worst place to look for advice..! Best to ask each other so thanks for advice and very relevant thoughts...
 
I’ve just googled the NICE guidelines for newly diagnosed Type 1s. They should not be offering twice daily all in insulin. Not since 2015. All Type 1s should be on basal bolus and carb counting. The truth is @Bomber1956 you will enjoy your diet more as there is so much more flexibility. Your numbers once used to the regime should be far easier to manage. And ultimately you will be much healthier. There is no way you should be having to deprive yourself if you don’t want to, of a nice bowl of ice cream after a meal. Plus do you have a Libre? If not, ask for one you are eligible. Do not be put off from moving forwards. You are only 3 years older than me. I am 10 years into this journey and was put immediately onto basal/bolus and carb counting and have never looked back.
 
becca59 said:
I’ve just googled the NICE guidelines for newly diagnosed Type 1s. They should not be offering twice daily all in insulin. Not since 2015. All Type 1s should be on basal bolus and carb counting. The truth is @Bomber1956 you will enjoy your diet more as there is so much more flexibility. Your numbers once used to the regime should be far easier to manage. And ultimately you will be much healthier. There is no way you should be having to deprive yourself if you don’t want to, of a nice bowl of ice cream after a meal. Plus do you have a Libre? If not, ask for one you are eligible. Do not be put off from moving forwards. You are only 3 years older than me. I am 10 years into this journey and was put immediately onto basal/bolus and carb counting and have never looked back.
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Thanks....I'm seeing consultant in October, I shall ask....I'm on the libre2 system after asking, it's such a relief after finger pricking and flapping arms like a demented seagull....
 
I make a dark chocolate mouse- melt chocolate - 1 can coconut milk- whisk for a good 30 seconds- then pour in dark chocolate- whisk again- pop in fridge for at least an hour- so good, sometimes add some berries or nuts on top.
I’m a type 1 diabetic - this is quite low carb for me
Yoghurts, berries, flaxseed,pumkin seeds & nuts
Occasionally I’ll have a magnum & just give required insulin (make sure I pre bolus at least 15 mins)
Hope this helps
 
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