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Putting on weight

NicoleC1971 said:
Sorry. Been out for the day in the sun. So by the laws of physics you will need to eat more than you expend to gain mass. It isn't just calories in/calories out though because your body will store different foods differently. The easiest route to improving the aesthetic would be to do some resistance based exercise AND eat some more carbs across the day chased with some balanced insulin shots. There is a genetic limit to what you can gain if you are a natural born skinny but training 2 x a week combined with right food choices will work to add bulk that you can notice in about 6 weeks.
With walking/cycling/running type exercise your big muscles are using up stored glucose(gylycogen) rapidly so you need LESS insulin and your body will take its energy supplies from fat reserves after about 2000 kcals have been used so if you do that kind of exercise you need to pay attention to your increased appetite and load up on carbs again to replenish what's been used.

Also bear in mind that almost everyone else is more lardy hence the comments about 'looking underweight' when you are normal weight because 'normal' now means overweight (majority of the adult population is overweght/obese).
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With respect cals in cals out is twaddle
 
rab5 said:
With respect cals in cals out is twaddle
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I agree - as in cals in and out are the proximal cause of weight gain but foods which provoke an insulin response will help turn calories to fat more efficiently. Giving more insulin is well known to cause weight gain. You are not just how many cals you eat/expend but what you store from what you eat and hormones are the main driver of that. So I think we might agree.
 
Weight's never been an issue for me, but if if I wanted to put a bit on, a few pork pies and kebabs would do the trick.

In the same way that eating some spring vegetable broth for a week or two would make me lose it.

T1 can be a demon but it is a lot simpler than is made out on this site.

I've never found it necessary to record anything in a spreadsheet, I don't do any calculations to figure out the balance of my macro components, I'm not a retired T2 who spends their day doing selective reading of papers favouring low carb, I just get on with my life, and if that involves eating a pork pie every now and then, or a light spring vegetable broth, that's what will happen.

It's possible to over-worry these things, when there's some really simple solutions staring you in the face.
 
NicoleC1971 said:
Sorry. Been out for the day in the sun. So by the laws of physics you will need to eat more than you expend to gain mass. It isn't just calories in/calories out though because your body will store different foods differently. The easiest route to improving the aesthetic would be to do some resistance based exercise AND eat some more carbs across the day chased with some balanced insulin shots. There is a genetic limit to what you can gain if you are a natural born skinny but training 2 x a week combined with right food choices will work to add bulk that you can notice in about 6 weeks.
With walking/cycling/running type exercise your big muscles are using up stored glucose(gylycogen) rapidly so you need LESS insulin and your body will take its energy supplies from fat reserves after about 2000 kcals have been used so if you do that kind of exercise you need to pay attention to your increased appetite and load up on carbs again to replenish what's been used.

Also bear in mind that almost everyone else is more lardy hence the comments about 'looking underweight' when you are normal weight because 'normal' now means overweight (majority of the adult population is overweght/obese).
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Thanks. I’m not one for weight training or resistance training. I’m a hiker really. Perhaps I could be persuaded to try some weights tho.
 
Scott-C said:
Weight's never been an issue for me, but if if I wanted to put a bit on, a few pork pies and kebabs would do the trick.

In the same way that eating some spring vegetable broth for a week or two would make me lose it.

T1 can be a demon but it is a lot simpler than is made out on this site.

I've never found it necessary to record anything in a spreadsheet, I don't do any calculations to figure out the balance of my macro components, I'm not a retired T2 who spends their day doing selective reading of papers favouring low carb, I just get on with my life, and if that involves eating a pork pie every now and then, or a light spring vegetable broth, that's what will happen.

It's possible to over-worry these things, when there's some really simple solutions staring you in the face.
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I like your thinking. Of late, I tend to lean towards that way of “tackling” my diabetes. By not overthinking and getting on with things. I was really hoping someone would suggest a particular type of food or a meal that would aid weight gain.
 
Very interesting discussion. Was diagnosed as T2 in Jan. lost 2 stone on LCHF to reach my target weight and am now struggling to maintain and not lose any more.

My wife and friends tell me I look too thin.. I don’t accept that since my BMI is 22.5 and their reference point is today’s normal (which is overweight). I don’t however want to lose any more and would like stay at my target weight of 154lbs (70kg). So like @mountaintom (but within the framework of LCHF), I’d appreciate some food tips that would help me not lose any more weight.

I average around 55 grams carbs/day, not on meds and check my BG several times a day. This approach has resulted in bringing down my 1AC from 51 to 44. So any food tips would be much appreciated. My FitnessPal app tells me I need to eat 2350 cals to gain 0,5 lbs/wk to get back to 154lbs. I’m struggling to do that and I haven’t even upped my exercise regime, which is my next step in my efforts to further reduce my 1AC.
 
johnrubinstein said:
Very interesting discussion. Was diagnosed as T2 in Jan. lost 2 stone on LCHF to reach my target weight and am now struggling to maintain and not lose any more.

My wife and friends tell me I look too thin.. I don’t accept that since my BMI is 22.5 and their reference point is today’s normal (which is overweight). I don’t however want to lose any more and would like stay at my target weight of 154lbs (70kg). So like @mountaintom (but within the framework of LCHF), I’d appreciate some food tips that would help me not lose any more weight.

I average around 55 grams carbs/day, not on meds and check my BG several times a day. This approach has resulted in bringing down my 1AC from 51 to 44. So any food tips would be much appreciated. My FitnessPal app tells me I need to eat 2350 cals to gain 0,5 lbs/wk to get back to 154lbs. I’m struggling to do that and I haven’t even upped my exercise regime, which is my next step in my efforts to further reduce my 1AC.
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A quote I heard over the weekend from a respected LC advocating GP is along the lines of "moderate carbs to your meter and mderate fat intake to your bathroom scales".

When eating LC, it can take a while for weight gain to stick.
 
DCUKMod said:
A quote I heard over the weekend from a respected LC advocating GP is along the lines of "moderate carbs to your meter and mderate fat intake to your bathroom scales".

When eating LC, it can take a while for weight gain to stick.
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This is the direction I have gone for regaining weight. Low carb has been great at improving every aspect of my health and dramatically so in quick time. It was great for losing the fat and dropping to a healthy weight, but when you can't stop that weight loss and you start to look thin and then eventually too thin, you know something has to change. My BMI has me at 20.5, which is considered a healthy weight range, but even I know I'm too thin as does everyone else. And it's so obvious that I'm under weight, which shows how useless and misleading the BMI system is.

So I upped my carbs. Not by much, 20g of starch carbs. I'm just inching up to see what is the best level of carbs for me. I've stopped the weight loss, added a bit back, but it's still early days and too early to know if I've hit the right amount to create a slow consistent gain, not trying to rush it.

I just think it's a case of finding what works for each person.
 
I've just used one of the online BMI calculators and it says 'your personal goal should be to maintain this BMI" (19) But further down it says my ideal bodyweight is 5kg heavier. I agree with the 5kg, but unless my height changes that will change my BMI!
 
Tophat1900 said:
This is the direction I have gone for regaining weight. Low carb has been great at improving every aspect of my health and dramatically so in quick time. It was great for losing the fat and dropping to a healthy weight, but when you can't stop that weight loss and you start to look thin and then eventually too thin, you know something has to change. My BMI has me at 20.5, which is considered a healthy weight range, but even I know I'm too thin as does everyone else. And it's so obvious that I'm under weight, which shows how useless and misleading the BMI system is.

So I upped my carbs. Not by much, 20g of starch carbs. I'm just inching up to see what is the best level of carbs for me. I've stopped the weight loss, added a bit back, but it's still early days and too early to know if I've hit the right amount to create a slow consistent gain, not trying to rush it.

I just think it's a case of finding what works for each person.
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Sounds like a bet. What I’ve found though is that if I eat just 30 grams of carbs in one sitting then my BG gets close to 8 if not over. Maybe if I space things out throughout the day, I could get away with it. I.e keep BG on an even keel.
 
Scott-C said:
I'm not a retired T2 who spends their day doing selective reading of papers favouring low carb
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ooo catty...
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And also edit to add not only that but I just spent a whole weekend basking in the delight of a low carb conference... hehe
 
bulkbiker said:
ooo catty...
edit to add :)

And also edit to add not only that but I just spent a whole weekend basking in the delight of a low carb conference... hehe
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Hope you didn't miss all the glorious sunshine that makes life and living so worthwhile.:)
 
I get shot down for this, but it's right as far as I can see, if you're burning more calories than you're eating you will in time, lose weight, conversely eating more calories than you burn will in time put weight on you, fat storage being the body's response to the excess calories, if you take a fair % of your calories from protein, theoretically you're more likely to put lean mass on, and a gram of protein and a gram of carbs both have 4 calories, fat has 9 per gram....
 
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bulkbiker said:
ooo catty...
edit to add :)

And also edit to add not only that but I just spent a whole weekend basking in the delight of a low carb conference... hehe
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Lol, nah, I think I'm just vaguely envious of retired people, because they don't have to do stuff like getting up in the morning and going to work....
 
kev-w said:
I get shot down for this, but it's right as far as I can see, if you're burning more calories than you're eating you will in time, lose weight, conversely eating more calories than you burn will in time put weight on you, fat storage being the body's response to the excess calories, if you take a fair % of your calories from protein, theoretically you're more likely to put lean mass on, and a gram of protein and a gram of carbs both have 4 calories, fat has 9 per gram....
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Your right. You will get shot down lol. Cals in cals out is as I call it twaddle!
 
kev-w said:
I get shot down for this, but it's right as far as I can see, if you're burning more calories than you're eating you will in time, lose weight, conversely eating more calories than you burn will in time put weight on you, fat storage being the body's response to the excess calories, if you take a fair % of your calories from protein, theoretically you're more likely to put lean mass on, and a gram of protein and a gram of carbs both have 4 calories, fat has 9 per gram....
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Just to get this clear (still new at this) are you saying that if I eat more calories than I burn then I’ll put on weight even if I stick to my current carb intake level? Increase protein instead of carbs and I’ll regain weight without at the same time affecting BG?
 
rab5 said:
Your right. You will get shot down lol. Cals in cals out is as I call it twaddle!
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And I'd call it twaddle any other way round, but as long as you're happy in your belief then it's cool with me.

The OP is a T1 looking to put some weight back on post diagnosis....

johnrubinstein said:
Just to get this clear (still new at this) are you saying that if I eat more calories than I burn then I’ll put on weight even if I stick to my current carb intake level? Increase protein instead of carbs and I’ll regain weight without at the same time affecting BG?
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You'd really do better asking in the T2 section to be honest, I can up my carb intake by increasing bolus without it affecting my BG, and I'd do that along with eating more protein if I was looking to gain weight, as I'd want more energy reserves for training, you can't really compare the two illnesses and the necessary disciplines required for their treatment and maintenance.
 
kev-w said:
And I'd call it twaddle any other way round, but as long as you're happy in your belief then it's cool with me.

The OP is a T1 looking to put some weight back on post diagnosis....



You'd really do better asking in the T2 section to be honest, I can up my carb intake by increasing bolus without it affecting my BG, and I'd do that along with eating more protein if I was looking to gain weight, as I'd want more energy reserves for training, you can't really compare the two illnesses and the necessary disciplines required for their treatment and maintenance.
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Oops. Apologies. Quite right. Just realised my mistake. Will post in correct forum.
 
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