Charlotte73
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- DIABETES, I should be kicking it’s **** but it’s got a hold on me and can’t get out.
I'm glad your DN will see you, mine rang me once to say your HBA1C was 93 and needed to go to glicazide as doctor prescribed metformin but it affected my stomach.I think you might well be right.
As far as weight loss goes I lost most of mine long after my BGs were back to normal levels. It also didn't work smoothly, and went in a series of steps. I lost more during the winter than in the summer. And once I started building up muscle again, I'm no longer losing much weight (if any) but am still losing fat (now under 34 inch waist).
You might see some HbA1c reduction even after only a month of low carb, but don't bet on it. You'll still have the hangover from months two and three going back.
The best thing I found with my DN was not to argue, but just to do what I was going to do anyway. At my first follow-up five months after diagnosis, and after five months on 20g/day, she nearly fell off the chair when my A1c had fallen from 50 to 36. Since then I have had no problems, but they still won't advise low carb for their other T2 patients. I suspect they know very well that it works, but officially have to continue with the NICE-approved line.
So - I challenge you to make your DN fall off her chair - if not this time, then next time.
My appointments are yearly now. It seems that some are not as lucky as others with their DN.I'm glad your DN will see you, mine rang me once to say your HBA1C was 93 and needed to go to glicazide as doctor prescribed metformin but it affected my stomach.
At the end of that call she said I'll leave you to it and ring you in 3 months. Nothing else just that and was gone. I've only been full diabetic for 6 weeks or so. It's like I don't exist. Still getting readings upto 19.7 regularly. Pic below was 3 hours after I ate homemade chicken soup. I give up.
No-one has spoken to me about anything regarding my diabetes. What I am doing is to just taking the tablets shes demanding i take and doing the tests. I tried doing low carb but it's so hard. It's getting to the point I'm hardly eating and drinking. I'm rough every day. The pic below is now but just realised time is wrong lol I've not eaten or drank since 6pm last night.My appointments are yearly now. It seems that some are not as lucky as others with their DN.
Has no-one talked to you about the high readings you're getting? I'm assuming you're testing before meals and two hours later, so you can judge what the impact is of whatever food you're eating.
What are you finding particularly hard to do?No-one has spoken to me about anything regarding my diabetes. What I am doing is to just taking the tablets shes demanding i take and doing the tests. I tried doing low carb but it's so hard. It's getting to the point I'm hardly eating and drinking. I'm rough every day. The pic below is now but just realised time is wrong lol I've not eaten or drank since 6pm last night.
The low carbs, I am a mum of 4 children who love to eat pasta and potatoes, I can't afford to do a whole different menu for myself I'm on extremely limited funds. I haven't been able to work due to medical problems. And have to admit I've not really looked into it a whole lot but to cook from scratch is hard due to physical abilities. I need more input from DN other than call you in 3 months.What are you finding particularly hard to do?
I just want to let you know you're not alone. I was diagnosed in July with T2. I had BG readings in the 17s. Had my blood tests, got thrown on some tablets (I declined them, although I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you're confident about diet/lifestyle changes), got called about my test results a couple of days later, and was told I'd been referred to diabetes training and the nurse wouldn't speak to me until after that. My first diabetes training session is next week, so had I not made a pain out of myself, the nurse would have gone from July through to October (when the diabetes training completes for me) without saying another word to me.I'm glad your DN will see you, mine rang me once to say your HBA1C was 93 and needed to go to glicazide as doctor prescribed metformin but it affected my stomach.
At the end of that call she said I'll leave you to it and ring you in 3 months. Nothing else just that and was gone. I've only been full diabetic for 6 weeks or so. It's like I don't exist. Still getting readings upto 19.7 regularly. Pic below was 3 hours after I ate homemade chicken soup. I give up.
Don't bother buying any lottery tickets, you've already won!Oh my goodness. I must have the very best Diabetic Nurse going. I actually look forward to seeing her every 6 months and after reviewing my results we have more of a therapy session about what is going on in my life.
I am sorry to read about your physical disabilities. Are your hands affected?The low carbs, I am a mum of 4 children who love to eat pasta and potatoes, I can't afford to do a whole different menu for myself I'm on extremely limited funds. I haven't been able to work due to medical problems. And have to admit I've not really looked into it a whole lot but to cook from scratch is hard due to physical abilities. I need more input from DN other than call you in 3 months.
They are 18,16,13,11.... I find frozen anything is bland and tasteless, its not so much my hands but both shoulders and neck have limited movement. My elder two are very good at cooking but they are now back working and at college.I am sorry to read about your physical disabilities. Are your hands affected?
Eating healthily can be done with a limited budget. If you buy packets of frozen fish, without coating, that is good protein and only needs frying or grilling. Frozen vegetables and berries are cheaper than fresh ones. Tinned fish is also very good value, and does not need preparation. I would suggest that you eat whatever protein you give the children with their pasta and potatoes, but have broccoli or cauliflower yourself, fresh or frozen.
What age are your children?
Superb.Update on the diabetic nurse appointment. Spoiler it was great.
I went in all ready to fight the low carb fight and she was all for it. I'll tell you some of the things she said and it will read cheeky but she was actually quite dry and funny. I pulled out the bit of paper with my readings and she rolled her eyes and said "I'm not giving you strips" and I said "I didn't ask" She looked at the readings and commented on how the early 8s were going and just said "good for you keep it up, use a different finger every time." I mentioned that I had worried she would "healthy diet" me and she said "nope, these days I say mediterranean or low carb and I probably say mediterranean because I know more about it" I said "no Eatwell then" and she said "well it was a pretty poster"
Feet checked, weight and then bloods (because the GP had apparently neglected to check cholesterol) My BP was a bit high but she said lets wait and see if it comes down with your weight.
I asked if she had included Hba1c in the bloods and she said "no because it will only be down to 50ish and I don't want you to be disappointed. We both know you are chasing 38 and I think you are on the right track"
On the way out the door she said " They would strike me off for this but have a look at Michael Mosley's keto stuff"
All in all it was a really positive appointment. Back in 3 months
I wish you luck - I was at odds with the diabetic nurse and practically non existent interest from the one permanent doctor at our surgery.I've known I was diabetic for almost four weeks (my hba1c was 54) and have been low carb for about three. I only had one day of readings with my meter before I opted for low carb and these numbers were 12 to 18. Almost immediately my numbers dropped and are now almost always high 5s to mid 7s. Low carb feels right to me.
But..... I haven't lost any weight yet, maybe a pound or two but certainly not what I would lose with strict calorie counting. Personally I don't mind this. If it doesn't start shifting soon I'll look at calories and portion sizes.
Tomorrow I have my first appointment with the diabetic nurse. They have already sent me a 12 week membership for weight watchers and I know tomorrows conversation will be all about weight. I'm not sure what to say if she pushes "healthy balanced diet"
In addition I have a knee replacement coming up in a couple of months she will go on about losing weight for that. The knee people have said they will go ahead if my hba1c is less than 65.
I had my other knee replaced in May and wonder if someone would have told me if I was diabetic from these pre op bloods. This leads me to wonder if I "became" diabetic in the three months recovering from the op. Most of which I spent in bed scoffing take outs and chocolate and gaining weight. This was exactly the period my hba1c of 54 would have been based on.
Apologies for this turning into my rambling thoughts. I think I'm just apprehensive about sticking to my low carb guns with the nurse tomorrow and I really value the helpful useful feedback on this forum.
Yep I did!!!Make that 3 !! Mine is fab too. Discretely says Eatwell is outdated.
She took notes of several of my lo carb recipes and recommended I don’t attend the Diabetes Education course the practise offered me.
You’ll end up arguing with them she giggled.
Nice one @Margarettt
I have been low can for 8 years and love this lifestyle . Keep to it you will be recovering and your weight will adjust as you go along .portion size does count for weight loss and for me walking sways help good luck . It works !I've known I was diabetic for almost four weeks (my hba1c was 54) and have been low carb for about three. I only had one day of readings with my meter before I opted for low carb and these numbers were 12 to 18. Almost immediately my numbers dropped and are now almost always high 5s to mid 7s. Low carb feels right to me.
But..... I haven't lost any weight yet, maybe a pound or two but certainly not what I would lose with strict calorie counting. Personally I don't mind this. If it doesn't start shifting soon I'll look at calories and portion sizes.
Tomorrow I have my first appointment with the diabetic nurse. They have already sent me a 12 week membership for weight watchers and I know tomorrows conversation will be all about weight. I'm not sure what to say if she pushes "healthy balanced diet"
In addition I have a knee replacement coming up in a couple of months she will go on about losing weight for that. The knee people have said they will go ahead if my hba1c is less than 65.
I had my other knee replaced in May and wonder if someone would have told me if I was diabetic from these pre op bloods. This leads me to wonder if I "became" diabetic in the three months recovering from the op. Most of which I spent in bed scoffing take outs and chocolate and gaining weight. This was exactly the period my hba1c of 54 would have been based on.
Apologies for this turning into my rambling thoughts. I think I'm just apprehensive about sticking to my low carb guns with the nurse tomorrow and I really value the helpful useful feedback on this forum.
Fantastic we need more like that - and unfortunately it was eatwell was the bible and I was expecting to ‘just lose weight’ and everything would be fine - including the beginnings of peripheral neuropathy which isn’t really cured by weight loss and without early intervention is permanent..Superb.
That one's a keeper.
I haven't been given much choice with the training, basically a vague suggestion that they'd withhold further tests/appointments until I'd done it. Probably their punishment for me daring to go my own way on managing my own health and not chowing down on 3 loaves of bread a day.recommended I don’t attend the Diabetes Education course the practise offered me.
You’ll end up arguing with them she giggled.
On my T2 course the interesting feature was the very large plate of sweety biscuits that was wheeled in every time there was a tea break. There was sugar for your tea too.I haven't been given much choice with the training, basically a vague suggestion that they'd withhold further tests/appointments until I'd done it. Probably their punishment for me daring to go my own way on managing my own health and not chowing down on 3 loaves of bread a day.
The letter from the training team was less than inspiring, advising me - and I quote word for word here - that "if you want to make a start before the sessions, try reducing the number of boiled sweets you eat". Yeah, thanks, but it was probably the pizza, burger buns, bread with every meal, chocolate, cake and crisps that got me in the end! Still, if only they could ban those boiled sweets I've never eaten in my life, it'd all be tickety-boo then!
So, if they want to play hardball, so will I - I'm going to treat it like a work training course! I've picked the online sessions, so I'll turn my camera off, do something useful with my time, and tune back in occasionally to hear them talking about how awesome carbs are for diabetics. Most importantly though, I'll shut my mouth, not ask a single question, and hope that kills the session quicker!
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